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Title: The Italian boys
Post by: TheHobbit on July 27, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
As the title states (with a pinch of salt)....  ;D

PAM00000

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM0.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM0B.jpg)

PAM00003

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM3.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM3B.jpg)

PAM00092

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM92.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM92B.jpg)

PAM00111

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM111.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM111B.jpg)

PAM00183

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM183.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM183B.jpg)

PAM00243

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM243.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM243B.jpg)

PAM00337

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM337.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM337B.jpg)

PAM00367

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM367.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM367B.jpg)

PAM00390

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM390-1.jpg)

(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn322/TheHobbit_01/Collection/PAM390B.jpg)

Most of the watches falls under the historic collection.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: ck77 on July 27, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
yummy yummy  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 27, 2012, 01:54:40 PM
Great Ivan! :thumbsup:

I hope you didn't have to put this thread up just because I asked about them models! :-[

By the way, thanks very much for taking the trouble to post all the pix with the model numbers. They really help, and they all look gorgeous.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 27, 2012, 02:10:59 PM
Ivan,

As regards the 337, in as much as it boasts an in-house, is the size not a tad too small to your liking? Or is it the wifey's?
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: TheHobbit on July 27, 2012, 02:16:02 PM
Great Ivan! :thumbsup:

I hope you didn't have to put this thread up just because I asked about them models! :-[

By the way, thanks very much for taking the trouble to post all the pix with the model numbers. They really help, and they all look gorgeous.  :Cheers:

Not a problem.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: TheHobbit on July 27, 2012, 02:17:31 PM
Ivan,

As regards the 337, in as much as it boasts an in-house, is the size not a tad too small to your liking? Or is it the wifey's?

It is indeed the wife's. Wears very small though, for me any way.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: hanz079 on July 27, 2012, 02:31:42 PM
Manburg kena pam poison ar?
I was interested with the 337 at one point as it was 42mm... but sadly... discontinued only after 1 year...
Alot of ppl have been telling me it's too small though... for a pam that is...
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: terrenceterrence on July 27, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
hey my favourite pam is the PAM98. it's 42mm as well too. looking for a person to trade it with my PAM112, that's the hard part.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: davidtth on July 27, 2012, 04:05:15 PM
always love the PAM243 looks, but my hand is too small for this beauty beast....

real nice collection there !  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 27, 2012, 09:43:03 PM
Manburg kena pam poison ar?
I was interested with the 337 at one point as it was 42mm... but sadly... discontinued only after 1 year...
Alot of ppl have been telling me it's too small though... for a pam that is...

Hanz, macam tau-tau je? :D Ha ha ha ... nola bro. :-[ The PAM poison is still too painful for me, at least for now. I'm just looking2 from afar bro.  ;)

And I think people are correct when they say the 337 is too small for a proper PAM, even for someone with a slim wrist. I mean, you buy a PAM for its supposedly historic trappings, and the original ones were in 47. So a 42 might lose all those factors.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: bryanL on July 27, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
its every man's dream to own each and every piece of it.,.. btw, the pictures r so addictive....
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: pexus on July 28, 2012, 06:54:59 AM
IVan, thanks for the poison, again.  ;D

Manburg, looking from afar? careful...that's how these things start.....looking for pics, getting to know the 3 digits, digging up history of each pieces, imagining how each one goes with a different strap.......
Anyway, I think its right for you to test your photography skills with these Italian models...after all the Rolex and Omega beauties you posted here...hehe.. ;D
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: tonykpk on July 28, 2012, 07:52:13 AM
For starters , you won't go wrong with any of the base models..
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 30, 2012, 07:36:46 AM
Anyway, I think its right for you to test your photography skills with these Italian models...after all the Rolex and Omega beauties you posted here...hehe.. ;D

Hi Alex,

I knew this would be coming from you!  :laugh: Thanks for the vote of confidence a.k.a RACUN! But no needla bro for the time being. Unless you want to donate me your half-month bonus ...  ;)

IVan, thanks for the poison, again.  ;D

Manburg, looking from afar? careful...that's how these things start.....looking for pics, getting to know the 3 digits, digging up history of each pieces, imagining how each one goes with a different strap.......

Are you talking about yourself here?  ;D He he he ... I guess it's good to learn something new. At least I'm looking at the 3 digits, not the 4 digits! :D
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 30, 2012, 08:02:45 AM
Ivan,

Thanks again for coming up with this thread. If I could however pick your brain, I'd like very much to learn the reasons that were factored in on choosing a particular model over the other. I mean, you're very knowledgeable in the world of PAMs, and knowing you, I'm sure you must have planned your PAMs collection very well. So I'm sure it must be a very good education for a novice like me and others to learn from you as to why these nine models were chosen.

For example, I might presume the choice of 000 is a MUST due to the fact that it's the Base model that has the strongest DNA of the original PAM, etc. The mantra I saw being commonly recited in association with 000 is "Zero is Hero". Are those also the factors for you?

Thanks again for your time.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: pexus on July 30, 2012, 09:17:22 AM
Anyway, I think its right for you to test your photography skills with these Italian models...after all the Rolex and Omega beauties you posted here...hehe.. ;D

Hi Alex,

I knew this would be coming from you!  :laugh: Thanks for the vote of confidence a.k.a RACUN! But no needla bro for the time being. Unless you want to donate me your half-month bonus ...  ;)

IVan, thanks for the poison, again.  ;D

Manburg, looking from afar? careful...that's how these things start.....looking for pics, getting to know the 3 digits, digging up history of each pieces, imagining how each one goes with a different strap.......

Are you talking about yourself here?  ;D He he he ... I guess it's good to learn something new. At least I'm looking at the 3 digits, not the 4 digits! :D

hahaha...i wish i am toxic free ...but ...too bad...cant seemed to complete my detoxification program successfully...
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: TheHobbit on July 30, 2012, 09:33:29 AM
Ivan,

Thanks again for coming up with this thread. If I could however pick your brain, I'd like very much to learn the reasons that were factored in on choosing a particular model over the other. I mean, you're very knowledgeable in the world of PAMs, and knowing you, I'm sure you must have planned your PAMs collection very well. So I'm sure it must be a very good education for a novice like me and others to learn from you as to why these nine models were chosen.

For example, I might presume the choice of 000 is a MUST due to the fact that it's the Base model that has the strongest DNA of the original PAM, etc. The mantra I saw being commonly recited in association with 000 is "Zero is Hero". Are those also the factors for you?

Thanks again for your time.

The journey was indeed interesting dotted with many incidents and accidents. But that is for another day. As for the collection, I basically collect models from the historic series and limited to a certain amount (cost, price, what ever the case may be). So, most of the models you see are from the historic collection. I try to get a basic representation of the models, i.e. sandwich dial, painted dial, base, sub dial, patina, old font, pre-v hands, etc. These are answered by some of the models or a combination of models. For example, tritium. I would love to get one of the old models with tritium, but they are not cheap. As such it is answered by the 243. True it is not a historic model but from contemporary, but it satisfy my need for tritium and the patina. Another example is the painted dial. It is answered by the base. And so on.

There are gaps in the collection, i.e. destro (left hander), black case models, 8 day movement, etc. Like I said, I limit myself by cost. I can get a PAM26K and solve some of the gaps, but it is not cheap. So I live with the fact that there will be gaps and perhaps a PAM219 may join the collection, maybe even a PAM292. All these are future plans and may or may not materialise. As for now, I am happy with the collection as it stands.

Most important to me is to get the models you like and not what people like or what the public in general dictates. No use buying a model to elevate your status in the PAM world when you don't really like it or can't wear or looks funky when you wear it. Thus far I only buy the 44 mm models (the 42 mm being the wife's is excluded) as I have tried the larger models and I cannot carry it. As such I have not bought any. I like the sub dial, hence you see most of the watches have the sub dial. Additionally, while I like the 1950 case models of the 312, 320 etc, I don't really like the quick change mechanism, so I have not purchased any. I don't really like the models in the contemporary series, save the 243 and that also very specific I series as it is the only 243 without the quick change mechanism and have the tritium dial. Hence the only contemporary model in the collection.

So,there you have it, basically in a nut shell, why these models are in my collection.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: bwee on July 30, 2012, 10:39:07 AM
this thread is really RACUN!
i have my eyes set on PAM320 or PAM441.. because i like watches with GMT function.
for now.. can only drool at the photos.
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 30, 2012, 08:08:25 PM

hahaha...i wish i am toxic free ...but ...too bad...cant seemed to complete my detoxification program successfully...

Alex, there's a reason as to why it's very difficult to reform an addict. Just ask Pusat Serenti.

In any case, we all can check out anytime we want, but we can never leave! :Blue:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Manburg on July 30, 2012, 08:25:39 PM
Ivan,

Thanks for the brief but yet comprehensive explanation of the rationale behind the collection. It at least answers my curiosity as to why none of the cheapest in-house models (bar the 337) is part of your collection. I remember you mentioned a while ago that you're not really into movement per se but will look at the watch as a whole package in determining its worth (I'm talking about your watch collection philosophy in general and not limited to only PAMs).

That said, I'm looking forward with great interest for the next addition to your PAM collection. May your journey continue as long as possible. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: wslee on July 30, 2012, 10:59:26 PM
Strong Racun!!!!  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: SeaDwellerR on August 02, 2012, 02:35:18 PM
Fantastic collections.

Love the 000 and 390   :thumbsup:   Base base base!

I guess the 003 fits your wife too.  I prefer women with White dial somehow.   ;)

Tell us which one you love the most IVAN?

I bet must be the 243!.  Just look at the PATINA on that 243 will make you fall in love....hehe...
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Kooks on October 02, 2012, 03:10:24 PM
Cool ones boy!! :)
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Timeless on November 17, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
They always say zero the hero for 000. Agree?
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: pam112 on November 17, 2012, 09:36:05 AM
Zero is hero. But I prefer my 112. Not a fan of logo's.
The 390 is nice!!!! Envy! :p
Title: Re: The Italian boys
Post by: Timeless on November 18, 2012, 01:09:42 PM
ya man... 390 is one of my favorite~