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Title: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Abms8963 on December 28, 2011, 06:19:20 PM
 :Blue:Helo member! I just registered as a new member about 10 minutes ago. Need advice from all the situ here. I have my eye on this white dial explorer 2 rolex in Johor bahru. Is it a worthwhile investment? Currently I own an old white gold oyster date which the shop has offered [do not discuss price here] for it, whether I buy the explorer or not. It's not part of a trade in. The explorer go for more than [pls pm to discuss price]. Any advice?
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Watchnewby on December 29, 2011, 08:18:56 AM
IMO, watches are not worthwhile investment. Just like cars, one buy a car at RM XXX price but after some time the value drops like "a bird without wings".

Some watches may have certain value as the year goes by, especially Roleks. This, IMO, is because the company increases its prices every year, hence the pre-owned market also adapt to the situation.

Coming back to your question, is it worthwhile to get the Explorer II? IMO, if the watch "sings to you", ie you feel like "must have" that Explorer II )within your budget), then why not get it.
As for trading in your white gold oyster date, does this piece still has a place in yoour heart? If it does, keep it. If not, sell it or trade it for another watch that you feel like "must have".
(Note: I  do not discuss price here, as to me the prices can be compared with friends, other pre-owned watch dealers etc)
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: gloomis on December 29, 2011, 08:41:11 AM
any rolex sport model is worth to invest. no further question ask...go ahead
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: danny on December 29, 2011, 09:00:15 AM
I'm no expert/sifu in pre-owned Rolex, but IMHO the value of a pre-owned timepiece depends on multiple factors such as condition (serviced regularly?, scratches?, dings?, polished case?), age ( the watch serial number can help determine the year of production) and dial color.

It is difficult to provide any advice without having seen the watch. I would suggest that you search the internet for current asking prices for this particular model so as to get a better idea of its value. If I recall correctly there are a few EXP2 being offered for sale here so you can also try searching MWF's "For Sale" board for more information.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: siodee on December 29, 2011, 10:51:05 AM
If you plan to buy and keep it in the Safe, then no point getting it. If you are tried to get the best deal, then it will be very much depend on the conditions as advised by other members. Just hunt around until you find a deal that you cant resist, that will be  :thumbsup: deal. 
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: meoramri on December 29, 2011, 12:10:42 PM
Watches are to be used. Having said that, the wear and tear does affect prices whether you like it or not.....think of it as the cost of enjoyment! :Cheers:
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Abms8963 on December 30, 2011, 08:43:43 AM
Thank u for all the advice. I guess it boils down to oneself to really examine the value of the watches and make up his own mind. However, others advice are much appreciated. I am still thinking about buying but need a few more days to come to the final decision. Actually we can't put a price tag on   something priceless right?
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: G.MAC on December 30, 2011, 09:48:15 AM
dont buy watch as investment. You will lose money.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: rockdaman on December 30, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
Thank u for all the advice. I guess it boils down to oneself to really examine the value of the watches and make up his own mind. However, others advice are much appreciated. I am still thinking about buying but need a few more days to come to the final decision. Actually we can't put a price tag on   something priceless right?

y bother to buy at JB...u should go to sg and survey. i believe the price is better.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Samajaya168 on December 30, 2011, 11:21:15 AM
excelent  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: dpkong on December 30, 2011, 05:14:12 PM
1. don't buy a watch as an investment item, meaning you expect it to increase in value or at least maintain it. buy it to wear for personal enjoyment.

2. before buying a watch, do your homework on the price especially for a used watch.

Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Abms8963 on December 31, 2011, 03:18:45 PM
Thank you for the advice. I don't mean to buy it for investment. I would like to to have it for self satisfaction, not for time tracking device. Anyway, those explorer 2 posted on the for sale board is either sold as such don't know the price or out of my price range.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: frank on January 02, 2012, 02:13:00 PM
agreed above, if the watch do have a place in your heart, go for it.. watch is very personal taste..
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: banqk2 on March 01, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
I appreciate explorer II Rolex watches and i still kept it well. One of the ultimate vintage watch must keep.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: bwee on March 01, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
go for it! i did.. no regrets. :)
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: j0shua on March 01, 2012, 11:53:31 AM
Take your time, don't get pushed into a purchase. Learn as much as possible.
Also, is that shop reputable?
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: David_cheong on March 01, 2012, 12:02:50 PM
Remember one more thing. Cheap things doesn't come good.
If the deal is too attractive to resist, walk away....

my 2 cents
dc
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: TheHobbit on March 01, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
Remember one more thing. Cheap things doesn't come good.
If the deal is too attractive to resist, walk away....

my 2 cents
dc

+1.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Spider boy on March 13, 2012, 06:47:10 AM
Remember one more thing. Cheap things doesn't come good.
If the deal is too attractive to resist, walk away....

my 2 cents
dc

+3
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: gck on March 13, 2012, 11:43:50 AM
the car analogy for watch is correct, it bound to depreciate.
the correct comparision in malaysian context is Rolex is like toyota good secondhand value, whereelse some other watches is like citroen.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: garygan on June 10, 2013, 07:47:57 AM
Rolex is the name in watches, if something will make you regret in future, it will never be a Rolex...
the only work you have to do before bring it home, is do some research on web, and forums discussing it, you will get many valuable opinion but after all, you have to make your own decision.
I am planning to get an Omega, but am ow looking for either a Rolex Exp 2, or Sub, both are great watches but just a matter of, I can only get one at a time..
So Bro, kindly share everything about your watches with us and we all will "support" you as a new member of the Families..
Kanpatei!!



Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: CKL1213 on June 10, 2013, 09:43:32 AM
16570 discontinued, should be a keeper
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: garygan on June 11, 2013, 09:56:22 AM
o.. great to know, i like the white dial version..
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: j0shua on June 11, 2013, 01:34:28 PM
Just noticed that this thread is a year and a half old -.-

Exp2 are wonderful pieces, polar 16570 is good bang for buck.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: cspoh001 on June 19, 2013, 07:04:47 PM
Explorer II is a very nice watch. I wish I could own one
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: dpkong on June 19, 2013, 07:16:32 PM
o.. great to know, i like the white dial version..

Explorer II is a very nice watch. I wish I could own one

There's one for sale in the forum...  shameless ad I know..   ::) :-*
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: herng0326 on July 07, 2013, 04:18:03 PM
Watch is not good for investment. But if you really like it, go for it   ::)
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Cocas on August 01, 2016, 09:50:57 AM
:Blue:Helo member! I just registered as a new member about 10 minutes ago. Need advice from all the situ here. I have my eye on this white dial explorer 2 rolex in Johor bahru. Is it a worthwhile investment? Currently I own an old white gold oyster date which the shop has offered [do not discuss price here] for it, whether I buy the explorer or not. It's not part of a trade in. The explorer go for more than [pls pm to discuss price]. Any advice?

I bought a pre owned Explorer II lately. I am lucky that it comes with full set documents including the original Rolex receipt.

The price in 2010 after discount is RM 18.8 k. Then this watch sold to me in 2016 for RM 16k.

So we take the reduced value of RM 2.8k then divided by 6 yrs. The previous owner just spent not enough RM40per month to enjoy the watch .

I think it's worth it.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: asimo on August 01, 2016, 11:59:21 AM
the car analogy for watch is correct, it bound to depreciate.
the correct comparision in malaysian context is Rolex is like toyota good secondhand value, whereelse some other watches is like citroen.


I think likely most of the watches are like fiat or Citroen ... Only a few specific models is like Toyota


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Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Devilzzz44 on August 01, 2016, 05:58:52 PM
Watch as an investment is a big no no! Unless u can get it at a very good price i mean below pre owned market price..then perhaps i call that a good deal..but if u wanna buy the Explorer 2 because u really like the model..then just pull the trigger on it


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Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: meoramri on August 01, 2016, 07:52:42 PM
IMHO, Don't go overboard about getting the 'best' deal. A branded watch is a luxury item. It is like diamonds, very difficult to get good second-hand value once cut and set. If the second hand value is an issue, you shouldn't buy it in the first place.


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Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Cocas on January 07, 2022, 03:14:51 PM
almost 6yrs, my 16570 served me well, and i parted it on 24-dec-2021 to trade in the new 126710blnr GMT Master II.

its trade-in value is RM33k.

i revived this thread just to honour my dearest 16570, it got 3186 calibre and  tiptop accuracy and nonpolished case and bracelet.

i am here to say " Thank you" to my 16570 3186 movement explorer II!
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: W3ll on January 07, 2022, 03:38:22 PM
almost 10yrs, my 16570 served me well, and i parted it on 24-dec-2021 to trade in the new 126710blnr GMT Master II.

its trade-in value is RM33k.

i revived this thread just to honour my dearest 16570, it got 3186 calibre and  tiptop accuracy and nonpolished case and bracelet.

i am here to say " Thank you" to my 16570 3186 movement explorer II!

How much did you have to top-up for the batman?
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Cocas on January 07, 2022, 03:57:44 PM
MYR 45k cash + another watch.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: bulletnos on January 07, 2022, 07:09:54 PM
almost 10yrs, my 16570 served me well, and i parted it on 24-dec-2021 to trade in the new 126710blnr GMT Master II.

its trade-in value is RM33k.

i revived this thread just to honour my dearest 16570, it got 3186 calibre and  tiptop accuracy and nonpolished case and bracelet.

i am here to say " Thank you" to my 16570 3186 movement explorer II!

May it find a good wrist to call home… :Praying: :Praying: :Praying: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: Cocas on January 09, 2022, 01:27:26 PM
almost 10yrs, my 16570 served me well, and i parted it on 24-dec-2021 to trade in the new 126710blnr GMT Master II.

its trade-in value is RM33k.

i revived this thread just to honour my dearest 16570, it got 3186 calibre and  tiptop accuracy and nonpolished case and bracelet.

i am here to say " Thank you" to my 16570 3186 movement explorer II!

May it find a good wrist to call home… :Praying: :Praying: :Praying: :thumbsup:

yup it was sold in less than a week. glad that someone will cherish her on my behalf...
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: h.chang on January 14, 2022, 12:19:57 PM
Explorer II is a good watch, worth having, if one can afford it. If buying the watch makes one better off mentally, then it may worth the effort. Expecting it to make a profit after some years, may not be wise.
Title: Re: Need opinion on rolex explorer 2 model 16570
Post by: ry on January 16, 2022, 07:03:48 AM
     If you like it and money not an issue go buy it.I have collected watches for a long time mostly to wear and appreciate it.
I have never thought of it as an investment.But fortunately through the years the prices of watches i acquired generally have gone up.
     Rolex especially the SS sports model have all gone up in value.And of course i acquired some LEMONS too....panerai...frank muller.Even though these LEMONS have depreciated greatly i still enjoy wearing them'
     My rolexes i have 13 of them( All SS sports and ONE two tone Date just).Just some reference for invesment point of view...
   Explorer polar dial 16570 purchase at 12K RM ...today easily 35 to 40k  RM
   SS Daytona 16520  paid 14K USD     today easily 30K USD
   SS Daytona 116520 ,grey market paid 11k  USD  today 25K USD
The LEMONS some of which i lost half it s value like Panerai PAM 190 JLC movement,paid 11K USD during the hype ,now maybe 6K.So you win some and lose some.

The watches were acquired from grey market and many from AD ,since there were no waiting list those years ago.Presently the issue is whether you can get one from the AD,which seems impossible or buy from grey market at a gretly inflated price.I have come to a point where i m thinking of getting rid of my entire collection,putting up for sale as i have made quite a bit.

    So buy it if you like it and wear it,enjoy it and hopefully you make some money from it