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Main Forums => Watch Reviews => Topic started by: dsiewmy on February 11, 2012, 12:12:16 PM
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Been falling in love with the PAM372, which makes me want to share more about this wonderful and beautiful timepiece.
This is my first review ever, so please bear with me.
Introduction
The PAM372 is a SIHH2011 release model, much awaited as it was considered as the "fiddy base" which most ristis like myself were anxiously awaiting. (Fiddy is a slang reference to the PAM127).
A total of 3500 pcs will be made over a period of 2 years, which makes it a one time release limited production model (like the PAM366, PAM367 n etc.)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eeCBHpJyESk/TzYL2ybuYPI/AAAAAAAABCE/2gJENi2n98I/s800/DSC_0171.JPG)
Most ristis like myself waited for this model for more than a year (order in early last year, only received recently).
Real bummer if you asked me...
What is in the package?[/b]
PAM372 is a 47mm high polished case, based on a vintage design ~ "transitional case".
This casestyle is different from previous pre-V and 1950 case.
This new transitional case makes it easier to wear than the previous 1950s.
"easier" in my case is for people with smaller wrist like mine (~6").
It looks huge but doesn't really wear that big, but still commands great wrist presence.
See photos for the differences in case style.
Bottom is pre-V case PAM390, middle is transitional case PAM372, top is 1950 case PAM359.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--y8KH9cQZGg/TzYMpVLESEI/AAAAAAAABCs/5o8wvYODN-0/s800/DSC_0176.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O9RMBuyxaPg/TzYM2K7I1SI/AAAAAAAABC0/RwGUSQCD8Bc/s800/DSC_0177.JPG)
The most important factor of this watch, is the base pumpkin colored dial with its new gold hands.
I could just look at this all day ;)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Lm3OuCBFqC0/TzYNfk4STJI/AAAAAAAABDU/dDpFkr1VNpI/s800/DSC_0184.JPG)
It also has a plexi which makes it so much fun to look at. Panerai has even thrown in an additional plexi-glass just in case! But no matter, as you may know, plexis are easy to maintain.
See photo for difference between plexi and crystal.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fESH0ZnvAug/TzYNHNxBCDI/AAAAAAAABDE/eA4EU_ucgT8/s800/DSC_0180.JPG)
Back case on the other hand is see-thru crystal, so one can view the much more improved pam in-house movement p3000.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-456RcCcZbpU/TzYTLy-mw9I/AAAAAAAABFg/qYUgJhgQnV0/s800/DSC_0169.JPG)
The crown guard on the PAM372 is just like the one on the 1950's.
What is in the package?[/b]
The 2 new OEM straps are much improved versions of the previous calf vintage and a brand new design.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rXG-9-DBUE4/TzYPYuQCoWI/AAAAAAAABE0/1e_OJXQtsws/s800/DSC_0198.JPG)
Everything sounds great so far, one bit I don't really like is that box set which it comes with.
Although a very special timepiece and even limited in production, but it was not given a Special Edition status, hence no SE box. All the above has to be squeezed into the normal regular production box set (which in this case is tiny since there's so much to fit in).
Overall Build[/b]
With Panerai trying to go upmarket, the overall build quality of the 372 is much improved.
Everything looks find and dandy, all build solid; but comes at a high price.
The PAM372 is priced much higher than previous base models (based on retail price).
The new movement is a manual winding - P3000 which is much better to look at as compared to the previous ETA and P9000 calibres.
I'm not much of a movement guy, but this new movement does feel much smoother when winding and so far has been great. I have not been able to test the power reserve correctly, but manufacturer says it's a 3 day power reserve model.
Comparison with Other Models[/b]
here a comparison between the 47mm Luminor PAM372 and the 44mm Luminor PAM390
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-EdWNdV7QAQg/TzYLOJlZjkI/AAAAAAAABBs/XtDipzE8Koc/s800/DSC_0167.JPG)
here a comparison between 47mm Luminor PAM372, a 47mm Radiomir Composite PAM339 and the 44mm Luminor PAM390
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vEdgqja7FyA/TzYORXYND6I/AAAAAAAABD8/kgWdJM_98w8/s800/DSC_0189.JPG)
Wrist Shots[/b]
and now for the most important part ;D
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J_xpWS_62zo/TzYNUNTipUI/AAAAAAAABDM/AoWnYf9JaTU/s800/DSC_0182.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9A8vh-nYW3Y/TzYNl9RxDjI/AAAAAAAABDc/lb8zTRn685Q/s800/DSC_0185.JPG)
that's all from me for now. i will be following up with another PAM390 review soon.
hope u enjoyed it as much as i did.
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Congrats on the PAM00372. Wear it with good health.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Love your review....
and awaiting your pam390 review
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Congrats on the PAM00372. Wear it with good health.
did u waitlist for one bro?
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Congrats on the PAM00372. Wear it with good health.
did u waitlist for one bro?
Yes I did and don't know if I will get it or not or even if I will pick it up if offered (over budget).
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great,,,,, the 372 n 390 different is the size only
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great,,,,, the 372 n 390 different is the size only
Not really, both are very different watches. Size is just the tip of the iceberg. The hands are different, the case are different, the movement, the case back, and lots more.
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great,,,,, the 372 n 390 different is the size only
Not really, both are very different watches. Size is just the tip of the iceberg. The hands are different, the case are different, the movement, the case back, and lots more.
ic.....from pic.....only can different by the size he he , thanks the info bro
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looks like my review isn't that good.
<PAM372>
sandwich dial
new "vintage" hands
new inhouse p3000 movement (manual winding)
crown guard with REG. TM engraving
transitional case
<PAM390>
painted sausage dial
normal gold hands
ETA movement (manual winding)
normal crown guard
pre-V case
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Nice review :thumbsup:
Is 390 comes with a SE box?
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Nice review :thumbsup:
Is 390 comes with a SE box?
yes CK, u can see the photo in the pam390 review
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if this beautiful pcs come with SE box with a KEY will be perfect?? but too bad pam don gives u perfect combination as they always do :Laughing_on_floor:
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yes, it's funny why Panerai decided to make it only a LE, not a SE.
in addition to that announced PAM422 as a SE, but then decided to cut it down to a LE also.
but with or without the SE box, it'll always be a SE in my collection.
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Thank you. A first class PAM Master.
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Is the "LUMINOR PANERAI" marking engraved onto the dial for the PAM372, while on the PAM390, it's just printed?
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Is the "LUMINOR PANERAI" marking engraved onto the dial for the PAM372, while on the PAM390, it's just printed?
You are correct on both counts.
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have seen watches that resemble panerais design that have the brand luminor marina on it. whats your take on that?
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The 339 simply looks awesome. Wonder how much is it in the market nowadays??
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have seen watches that resemble panerais design that have the brand luminor marina on it. whats your take on that?
when u see the word marina, basically that model will have a sub-second dial i.e. not a base.
the marina version of the 372 will be the PAM422, out this year end.
different people have different likings, i prefer a base :)
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The 339 simply looks awesome. Wonder how much is it in the market nowadays??
the PAM339 has taken a beating due to composite issues, but i have seen a few and never encountered such issues.
i think it only involves a small fraction of the watches.
but becos of this beating, u can find PAM339 for around 50K. (list price 47500).
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after trying the real pam372.... (in MWF 3rd Anni GTG)
i must say, this is the most beautiful modern luminor pam....
only thing i dun like is the small balance wheel of this movement, and the movement brush finishing
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Panerai is putting venom in my blood... I know it might be getting a lill out of fashion nowdays. But they are just growing on me. Now if only my slave owner would allow me to invest in one!!! :Praying:
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after trying the real pam372.... (in MWF 3rd Anni GTG)
i must say, this is the most beautiful modern luminor pam....
only thing i dun like is the small balance wheel of this movement, and the movement brush finishing
i have been saying that for sometime, it is truly a wonderful simple piece of panerai dna.
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Panerai is putting venom in my blood... I know it might be getting a lill out of fashion nowdays. But they are just growing on me. Now if only my slave owner would allow me to invest in one!!! :Praying:
may i know why do u say it's "out of fashion nowadays?"
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on a darker colored vintage strap.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YFgiuPXkbqs/T0t_d1w36XI/AAAAAAAABHE/TNNH5qZ46cs/s960/5F519F9B-87C9-41BA-A4A5-AD1061BD47B7.JPG)
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Panerai is putting venom in my blood... I know it might be getting a lill out of fashion nowdays. But they are just growing on me. Now if only my slave owner would allow me to invest in one!!! :Praying:
may i know why do u say it's "out of fashion nowadays?"
Trend wise it seems to be going back to the size of 42... but if you are like me then you don't give a fu*k about trends.. (altough im coming from the otherside.. love vintage so i'm oki with watches as small as 34mm :) ) but Panerai has Poison me... everything from the simplistic design to the options of straps
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thanks dsiewmy for the write ups :thumbsup:
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Is the "LUMINOR PANERAI" marking engraved onto the dial for the PAM372, while on the PAM390, it's just printed?
Yes, you r right.
Engraved/sandwich on pam372
Painted on pam390
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Great review and thanks for sharing the information.
My only question is why did you say "plexi are easy to maintain".
I have read review commenting that plexi gets scratches easily as compared to sapphire glasses. What is your view on this. Thanks
Kind regards,
Wilson
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Great review and thanks for sharing the information.
My only question is why did you say "plexi are easy to maintain".
I have read review commenting that plexi gets scratches easily as compared to sapphire glasses. What is your view on this. Thanks
Kind regards,
Wilson
The scratches can be polished out by toothpaste or other polish designed for the acrylic crystal.
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drooling !!!!!!!!! love it!!!!!! :thumbsup:
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Great review and thanks for sharing the information.
My only question is why did you say "plexi are easy to maintain".
I have read review commenting that plexi gets scratches easily as compared to sapphire glasses. What is your view on this. Thanks
Kind regards,
Wilson
The scratches can be polished out by toothpaste or other polish designed for the acrylic crystal.
Cool. Thanks for answering the question Hobbit.
Kind regards,
Wilson
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One thing about acrylic crystal is based on my experience with the snowflake, it will easily get micro hairline scratches... sort of add to the vintage charm... :thumbsup:
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One thing about acrylic crystal is based on my experience with the snowflake, it will easily get micro hairline scratches... sort of add to the vintage charm... :thumbsup:
bro, this is call CHARACTER :thumbsup:
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One thing about acrylic crystal is based on my experience with the snowflake, it will easily get micro hairline scratches... sort of add to the vintage charm... :thumbsup:
bro, this is call CHARACTER :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: yes tht correct, means tht u got wear it...
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oki i dont know much about Panerai... so how much would a verry simple looking cheapest one cost? withouth the new logo preferably.. ? not super huge but still with lugs that can make me buy cool straps...
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oki i dont know much about Panerai... so how much would a verry simple looking cheapest one cost? withouth the new logo preferably.. ? not super huge but still with lugs that can make me buy cool straps...
A base like pam 112, 2 hands luminor
Or
Pam210, 2 hands radiomir
Both retail at around rm17k
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oki i dont know much about Panerai... so how much would a verry simple looking cheapest one cost? withouth the new logo preferably.. ? not super huge but still with lugs that can make me buy cool straps...
A base like pam 112, 2 hands luminor
Or
Pam210, 2 hands radiomir
Both retail at around rm17k
yeah, base PAM112 luminor or base radiomir PAM210 list at RM17200.
or if u like a seconds hands then PAM 111 luminor or PAM183 radiomir list at RM18600
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oki not so devastating then :) just to buckle up and work more :thumbsup:
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oki i dont know much about Panerai... so how much would a verry simple looking cheapest one cost? withouth the new logo preferably.. ? not super huge but still with lugs that can make me buy cool straps...
Something to deepen the poison
(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w501/TdBean/pam510.jpg)
Photo by Caius
(http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w501/TdBean/pam02310.jpg)
Photo by Francois Xavier
I would choose the PAM 210 (Radiomir) over the PAM112 because once you start you can't stop. Damn Panerai virus is worse than HIV.:shocked1: Further down the road you would want a model with small seconds hand and I think the Luminor case is better suit the small seconds hand.
A Radiomir can be dress up or down depends on the straps. Plenty to play with and second hand value is quite stable. In case you want to get out. ;)
I would hunt around for a nice used ones. The AD here will kill you. PM me if you have more question.
Just my 2 cents
Regards
T
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the pam virus is slowly flowing into my brain. counting down the days before.....a new watch ?? :Confused:
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the pam virus is slowly flowing into my brain. counting down the days before.....a new watch ?? :Confused:
go for it. if u still unsure....please make yourself to attend our 2nd PAMS GTG in June
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So soon? Actually I can't wait. GTG is a great way to meet new friends. Albeit watch-gila friend.
Regards
Tyler
the pam virus is slowly flowing into my brain. counting down the days before.....a new watch ?? :Confused:
go for it. if u still unsure....please make yourself to attend our 2nd PAMS GTG in June
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guys, where you guy get your Penerai in kl?Going down to kl this weekend survey.
can someone enlighten me a bit?
ps: i am not stay at kl de.. :Blue:
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the pam virus is slowly flowing into my brain. counting down the days before.....a new watch ?? :Confused:
go for it. if u still unsure....please make yourself to attend our 2nd PAMS GTG in June
that will be my goal to get a PAM ! but will have to be in the future~ :)
wish to join in to attend GTG too !!! but unfortunately my class starts from June :Blue:
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Nice review with a beautiful picture. PAM is my next target ! :Dancing_banana:
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Adoi...one of my colleague (woman) just bought a Pam 88 yesterday. She keep sending me pic to tempt me into it instead of my gmt2c choice :Confused:
And now all the poison here.. :Confused:
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am wondering. Is this a special edition piece? Or is it a normal production piece?
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Great stuff great review
Thanks for sharing
I suppose pam 422 would be the next review...
:thumbsup:
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Good catch, one of most accomplished neo-vintage watch, of all the market. :thumbsup: