Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 10, 2022, 10:56:35 AM
I'm currently smitten with the caseback view of the new Leica L1 & L2 releases, man these things are mint (as u could probably tell, I dig german watches ;D). Seems like going off on a tangent, a camera company making watches. Still, the output looks mighty interesting.
(https://i.ibb.co/9GYnk3Y/dsdssd.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25Kq1YK)
So hey, what's new with you?
Post by: bulletnos on February 10, 2022, 12:31:34 PM
Seems like every day we keep getting reminded of how hung up we're feeling not being able to get what we want. So I thought that rather than talking about IT-THAT-SHALL-NOT-BE-NAMED, it might be more cheerful to talk of other things, look at other interesting pieces available, maybe some new releases.
I'm currently smitten with the caseback view of the new Leica L1 & L2 releases, man these things are mint (as u could probably tell, I dig german watches ;D). Seems like going off on a tangent, a camera company making watches. Still, the output looks mighty interesting.
(https://i.ibb.co/9GYnk3Y/dsdssd.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25Kq1YK)
So hey, what's new with you?
wow would you look at that movement - clean and crisp. But the lack of the Côtes de Genève stripes or Perlage makes it a lil less refined imho...since those decorations has its purpose too.
Curious - what is the price point for these?
What's new for me? Well, my eyes are now opened to Germans too... ;D thanks to poison :HammerHead:
Post by: bulletnos on February 10, 2022, 12:35:34 PM
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Post by: dpkong on February 10, 2022, 05:12:01 PM
Why did a camera company start dabbling in watches and meanwhile they're re-badging Japanese cameras as their own?
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 10, 2022, 05:30:55 PM
@dpkong: tbh I'm not all that familiar la with the stuff Montblanc is doing, other than the fact that I like the looks of the Nicolas Rieussec pieces they came out with, an interesting take on the chronograph.
Post by: W3ll on February 11, 2022, 07:18:05 AM
I mean…look at this la…
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Lovely piece! would go for the panoreserve in white dial anytime due to it's thinner profile
Post by: bulletnos on February 11, 2022, 06:12:48 PM
Interesting choice, now that you’ve mentioned…i did compare the two side by side, in fact, the hue of blue is also noticeably different between the two models with the PanoReserve being a little “warmer”…but a major difference is the movement with the PanoReserve being a manual wind. I kinda like the off-center rotor or the PanoMaticLunar though….hypnotizing…I mean…look at this la…
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Lovely piece! would go for the panoreserve in white dial anytime due to it's thinner profile
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 13, 2022, 09:38:30 AM
The more I look at these, the more I'm drawn to the Panolunar... something about the busier caseback. It seems like there's more distractions and moving thingies to look at as opposed to a larger view of the base plate :laugh: . Then again the decoration and finishing of the stripes are impeccable.
Post by: bulletnos on February 13, 2022, 11:56:32 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 15, 2022, 12:58:51 PM
Post by: bulletnos on February 15, 2022, 08:15:23 PM
Some watches have such nice casebacks feels like such a shame they remain hidden on the back. Wearing a piece on the reverse would be able to show off the mechanics and craftsmanship that went into decorating these movements, but alas lug design usually makes it impractical. I initially thought the Panoinverse seemed like a good compromise, but missing out on a regular also feels kinda rugi also. The idea of skeleton watches seem interesting until I have to actually buy them ;D
Haha that is so true...but I guess the fun part is knowing it's there...Syiok Sendiri...lol ;D
Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the PanoInverse though...seems like too much metal and low legibility.
A skeleton sounds like a plan...though I myself havent bought any at this point hahaha
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 16, 2022, 07:33:10 AM
And then once in a while something genuinely intruiging comes along that does exactly that. German watchmaker Marco Lang up and made a piece with that exact specific idea in mind.
This Zweigesicht-1 (literally means two face in English) has 2 sides, AND is meant to be wearable both sides. The lugs can actually be adjusted and realigned to accommodate whichever side we want to wear it. Fantastic bit of horo engineering.
(https://i.ibb.co/mCmgzbD/fullsizeoutput-4e00-720x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d0SxKjW)
Post by: bulletnos on February 16, 2022, 09:31:09 AM
And then once in a while something genuinely intruiging comes along that does exactly that. German watchmaker Marco Lang up and made a piece with that exact specific idea in mind.
This Zweigesicht-1 (literally means two face in English) has 2 sides, AND is meant to be wearable both sides. The lugs can actually be adjusted and realigned to accommodate whichever side we want to wear it. Fantastic bit of horo engineering.
(https://i.ibb.co/mCmgzbD/fullsizeoutput-4e00-720x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d0SxKjW)
For the WIN...!!!! :o
Like a Reverso but in your standard case shape!
That movement reminds me a lot of GP's Three Bridges too...
(https://secure-journal.hautehorlogerie.org/wp-content/uploads/tx_news/gp_hd_neo_tourbillon_pub.jpg)
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 18, 2022, 08:56:13 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 18, 2022, 09:01:09 AM
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Post by: hmkpwatches on February 18, 2022, 09:11:01 PM
Post by: jf98 on February 19, 2022, 09:00:16 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 20, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
Love the new Kurono Shiro! Wonder how hard it's gonna be to pre order :Laughing_on_floor:
(https://i.ibb.co/gyXHRrD/flip-meme.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Gotta start crunching some scripts di if wanna have a serious chance :Laughing_on_floor:
Unit limited releases are always gonna be challenging la kan? No openings announced for pre-existing customers either. At least the last Toki release was limited by time, still had chance to pick up, albeit a really long delivery time.
I kinda like this particular variant of his chrono as opposed to the previous one, this dial seems much more legible and easy on the eyes.
Post by: jf98 on February 20, 2022, 12:34:01 PM
Love the new Kurono Shiro! Wonder how hard it's gonna be to pre order :Laughing_on_floor:
(https://i.ibb.co/gyXHRrD/flip-meme.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Gotta start crunching some scripts di if wanna have a serious chance :Laughing_on_floor:
Unit limited releases are always gonna be challenging la kan? No openings announced for pre-existing customers either. At least the last Toki release was limited by time, still had chance to pick up, albeit a really long delivery time.
I kinda like this particular variant of his chrono as opposed to the previous one, this dial seems much more legible and easy on the eyes.
Better get those scripts done by Thursday la, else need to tumpang some Japanese friends :Laughing_on_floor:
But yes i agree, the red and white combo works better than the previous one for me. Still not sure about the price though, all in with shipping and taxes price landed here will be RM18k or so? :-\
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 21, 2022, 09:16:11 AM
Post by: jf98 on February 21, 2022, 11:51:20 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 22, 2022, 08:44:17 AM
Post by: jf98 on February 22, 2022, 10:11:32 AM
Post by: Cocas on February 23, 2022, 11:45:31 AM
Seems like every day we keep getting reminded of how hung up we're feeling not being able to get what we want. So I thought that rather than talking about IT-THAT-SHALL-NOT-BE-NAMED, it might be more cheerful to talk of other things, look at other interesting pieces available, maybe some new releases.
I'm currently smitten with the caseback view of the new Leica L1 & L2 releases, man these things are mint (as u could probably tell, I dig german watches ;D). Seems like going off on a tangent, a camera company making watches. Still, the output looks mighty interesting.
(https://i.ibb.co/9GYnk3Y/dsdssd.jpg) (https://ibb.co/25Kq1YK)
So hey, what's new with you?
there are even few normal small watch companies purposely turning themselves to become a microbrand, eg. Maurice Lacroix, Ball, Louis Erard...etc.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 24, 2022, 08:19:04 AM
Post by: jf98 on February 24, 2022, 08:21:28 AM
Eh, small companies becoming microbrands? Interesting, I didn't realize that. What is the impetus for such a shift? Negative market forces and downsizing? Hmm can't be though, the demand for luxury items right now is pretty hyped up. Is it for some kind of perceived value / exclusivity?
Seems like there's a connotation with microbrands paying more attention to detail and offering value for money, maybe they trying to leverage on that ???
Post by: pleasuresaurus on February 26, 2022, 06:17:31 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on March 22, 2022, 01:36:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/grFQnFQ/wow-2022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dfJXhJX)
Post by: bulletnos on March 22, 2022, 04:00:42 PM
One more week till WoW, anything interesting leaked so far? Personally, I'm curious about that whole Omega x Swatch thingie n how it'll play out, but doesn't seem to be tied to WoW tho.
(https://i.ibb.co/grFQnFQ/wow-2022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dfJXhJX)
Yea, many holding back their ammo until the WoW announcements...
I wonder what colour theme it would be this year...last year was a lot of Green...
Post by: dpkong on March 23, 2022, 06:34:20 PM
wondering why no teaser yet from Rolex
Post by: pleasuresaurus on March 30, 2022, 02:40:04 PM
Sure it looks like a hamilton with syringe hands, but I still love it!
(https://i.ibb.co/x6RcwVy/IMG-20220330-162811.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w4xb8DT)
Post by: hmkpwatches on March 30, 2022, 07:45:35 PM
Post by: bulletnos on March 30, 2022, 07:47:29 PM
The poor man's "Steve McQueen" Exp II ref 1655!
I love it!
Post by: hmkpwatches on March 30, 2022, 07:50:49 PM
(https://www.tudorwatch.com/-/media/model-assets/ambiance/xl/tudor-m79470-0001.jpg?w=1920&h=1920&version=1.8.0&sc_lang=en)
The poor man's "Steve McQueen" Exp II ref 1655!
I love it!
same. i already sent a message to my AD haha. will pair with the 1655 really nicely
Post by: pleasuresaurus on March 30, 2022, 08:17:56 PM
(https://www.tudorwatch.com/-/media/model-assets/ambiance/xl/tudor-m79470-0001.jpg?w=1920&h=1920&version=1.8.0&sc_lang=en)
The poor man's "Steve McQueen" Exp II ref 1655!
I love it!
I was A/B-ing this against the 1655, the faux rivet bracelet actually adds an additional level of detail that I think makes the overall piece quite interesting.
Post by: bulletnos on March 31, 2022, 06:39:52 AM
(https://www.tudorwatch.com/-/media/model-assets/ambiance/xl/tudor-m79470-0001.jpg?w=1920&h=1920&version=1.8.0&sc_lang=en)
The poor man's "Steve McQueen" Exp II ref 1655!
I love it!
I was A/B-ing this against the 1655, the faux rivet bracelet actually adds an additional level of detail that I think makes the overall piece quite interesting.
Yes yes! That faut rivet works better here than the BB58 actually…and the updated clasp looks a little more like it’s older brother and toolwatch-like!
(https://www.tudorwatch.com/-/media/model-assets/bracelets/xl/tudor-m79470-0001.png?w=1920&h=1920&version=1.8.0&sc_lang=en)
@hmkpwatches - i texted my AD as well. Hahaha
Post by: W3ll on March 31, 2022, 08:01:37 AM
Post by: bulletnos on March 31, 2022, 08:48:05 AM
Everything is good with the pro till I notice it’s thickness
You got a point there...the pics dont really show it - have to see it in the metal.
Stats wise, the thickness is actually similar to the BB41
BB41 : 14.8mm
BB Pro : 14.6mm :o
BB 58 : 11.9mm
Post by: W3ll on March 31, 2022, 08:57:03 AM
Everything is good with the pro till I notice it’s thickness
You got a point there...the pics dont really show it - have to see it in the metal.
Stats wise, the thickness is actually similar to the BB41
BB41 : 14.8mm
BB Pro : 14.6mm :o
BB 58 : 11.9mm
Yeah, thickness is similar with the BB GMT 41mm. It's just not pleasing to have that sort of thickness on a watch with 39mm besides that's one of the biggest issue with the GMT 41mm, and yet they decided to just keep things the way it is.
Post by: bulletnos on March 31, 2022, 09:18:02 AM
Everything is good with the pro till I notice it’s thickness
You got a point there...the pics dont really show it - have to see it in the metal.
Stats wise, the thickness is actually similar to the BB41
BB41 : 14.8mm
BB Pro : 14.6mm :o
BB 58 : 11.9mm
Yeah, thickness is similar with the BB GMT 41mm. It's just not pleasing to have that sort of thickness on a watch with 39mm besides that's one of the biggest issue with the GMT 41mm, and yet they decided to just keep things the way it is.
I agree. Even my 42mm Exp II is only 12.5mm thick.
14.6mm for a 39mm watch... :-\
We'll see. :Praying:
Post by: hmkpwatches on March 31, 2022, 09:19:34 AM
Everything is good with the pro till I notice it’s thickness
You got a point there...the pics dont really show it - have to see it in the metal.
Stats wise, the thickness is actually similar to the BB41
BB41 : 14.8mm
BB Pro : 14.6mm :o
BB 58 : 11.9mm
Yeah, thickness is similar with the BB GMT 41mm. It's just not pleasing to have that sort of thickness on a watch with 39mm besides that's one of the biggest issue with the GMT 41mm, and yet they decided to just keep things the way it is.
hmm thats actually a bit troubling. initially i loved my bb gmt but it did start to feel a bit bulky. on a 39 it may feel odd. gotta wait for prototype i guess
Post by: W3ll on March 31, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
Everything is good with the pro till I notice it’s thickness
You got a point there...the pics dont really show it - have to see it in the metal.
Stats wise, the thickness is actually similar to the BB41
BB41 : 14.8mm
BB Pro : 14.6mm :o
BB 58 : 11.9mm
Yeah, thickness is similar with the BB GMT 41mm. It's just not pleasing to have that sort of thickness on a watch with 39mm besides that's one of the biggest issue with the GMT 41mm, and yet they decided to just keep things the way it is.
hmm thats actually a bit troubling. initially i loved my bb gmt but it did start to feel a bit bulky. on a 39 it may feel odd. gotta wait for prototype i guess
Yes the BB 41 GMT looks great at first, but wearing it for a while you start to feel the weight of the watch and it's chunkiness, not a comfortable watch to wear. I can't imagine the extra weight on the S&G
Post by: Cocas on April 01, 2022, 01:34:54 PM
Post by: W3ll on April 02, 2022, 09:23:10 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on April 02, 2022, 02:00:06 PM
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Post by: pleasuresaurus on August 31, 2022, 09:25:32 AM
Well hive mind, what do we think about a 39mm Pelagos? Perfect size? Great entry into the line? Completely redundant? The racelet does look good though. At 11.8mm thick and 47mm lug to lug it does have a bit of presence
(https://i.ibb.co/2MQQ8zG/300005291-10209934799443657-4577340491034615078-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jw22VCn)
Post by: bulletnos on August 31, 2022, 01:03:04 PM
Hai adik-adik, Tora ooopppsss I mean Tudor datang lagi dengan permainan jam makin kecil!! :Laughing_on_floor:
Well hive mind, what do we think about a 39mm Pelagos? Perfect size? Great entry into the line? Completely redundant? The racelet does look good though. At 11.8mm thick and 47mm lug to lug it does have a bit of presence
(https://i.ibb.co/2MQQ8zG/300005291-10209934799443657-4577340491034615078-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jw22VCn)
Not a bad spec to be honest...but must test in the metal...
The BB Pro is a bit thick, and at least the Pelagos is slimmer though rated a deeper diver than the conventional BB.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on August 31, 2022, 04:12:21 PM
Post by: dpkong on August 31, 2022, 07:58:46 PM
Curious why Tudor didn't release it in green..
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 01, 2022, 12:14:55 PM
Post by: jf98 on September 01, 2022, 06:11:05 PM
Post by: dpkong on September 02, 2022, 01:46:28 PM
Or Tiffany Blue :Laughing_on_floor:
you fancy becoming shark bait?
I'm loving the new Pelagos 39 just based on the press release pics and some wrist shots of those who managed to see it in person. Messaged my AD a few hours after the launch and they're saying it's gonna be a years wait. Already kinda put off hearing that :-\ Anyone else inquired with their ADs regarding availability?
I believe all AD staff now are giving this same kind of answers to clients.. something to get you off their backs. With new releases, availability is uncertain at the moment.
Personally, not particularly interested as I much prefer the 42mm with date in blue
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 03, 2022, 08:08:31 AM
But hey, who am I kidding, closest I ever get to diving is a opening a web page on dive spots while wearing a diver watch.
Seems the whole inavailability drama of Tudor models is cranking way up again - a year for this new one now
Post by: dpkong on September 03, 2022, 10:36:44 AM
It sure makes life way more interesting :Laughing_on_floor:
But hey, who am I kidding, closest I ever get to diving is a opening a web page on dive spots while wearing a diver watch.
Seems the whole inavailability drama of Tudor models is cranking way up again - a year for this new one now
most hype wear out pretty fast for Tudor..
even the Pelagos with date in blue took a few weeks to arrive so expect new releases to take a bit longer
no need to be the first kid on the block with the latest toy
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 03, 2022, 10:57:31 AM
Post by: jf98 on September 03, 2022, 11:48:45 PM
it does beg the question though - keep BB58 or switch to Pelagos 39? Hmmm...
Personally I would replace it with the Pelagos 39. To me, there's a few differences that warrant the switch. The new T-fit clasp will be a huge benefit when it comes to daily wearability for me. Being titanium it's also gonna feel much more comfortable on wrist since it's so much lighter. I also like the new sunray finished ceramic bezel and dial, will hold up to scratches better than the BB58 for sure.
The one disadvantage I can think of is that damn 21mm lug width. I don't understand what is with Tudor always having to screw up one aspect of a new release that is soo frustratingly simple to get right. Another thing is the increase in price compared to BB58 as well...although that is kinda expected since the Pelagos family has always sat at a higher price point than the Black Bay lineup.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 04, 2022, 01:52:53 PM
Post by: jf98 on September 04, 2022, 11:05:33 PM
21mm lug width? Ah crap, I missed that :P . Ok, plan scrapped, sticking to the OG 58 then
Hahahah ;D
Post by: bulletnos on September 05, 2022, 07:52:14 PM
21mm lug width? Ah crap, I missed that :P . Ok, plan scrapped, sticking to the OG 58 then
hahaha that was a deal breaker...otherwise too many 20mm straps lying around...like me. LOL
Post by: jf98 on September 05, 2022, 10:24:50 PM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 06, 2022, 11:13:58 AM
@jf98: if u find out share with me oso, useful knowledge this :laugh: