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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2020, 12:03:46 PM »



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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2020, 12:04:55 PM »
Never owned a Tudor; so didn't buy ”blind.” Wasn't impressed at first sight, but with the wrappers off.....
it was like whoa...OMG...WTF...kapow!..lol...


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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2020, 12:35:23 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.
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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2020, 12:40:22 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

So did you pick up the 114060 instead? what is the retail?
But this BB58 Blue is building up in me. Congratulations on the new pickup

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2020, 01:36:35 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2020, 01:40:10 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

So did you pick up the 114060 instead? what is the retail?
But this BB58 Blue is building up in me. Congratulations on the new pickup

Suggest you don't go to a store to check out the display unit. Guarantee you won’t be able to sleep. Lol

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2020, 02:44:14 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

So did you pick up the 114060 instead? what is the retail?
But this BB58 Blue is building up in me. Congratulations on the new pickup

Yes I bought it. I topped up and paid RM28900 for the 114060. May sit out on the pursuit for the BB58 after this.
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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2020, 07:21:31 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.
I was told the blue BB58 will have more stocks coming so most AD accept prepayment, unlike the black one, it is still on waiting list, you cannot full payment and wait for the black one at least at THG, WT you can but the stock is extremely limited.

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2020, 07:27:37 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

So did you pick up the 114060 instead? what is the retail?
But this BB58 Blue is building up in me. Congratulations on the new pickup

Yes I bought it. I topped up and paid RM28900 for the 114060. May sit out on the pursuit for the BB58 after this.
They informed you your piece arrived but can't find it in their safe when you're in the store?
A blessing in disguise for the 114060, enjoy it, you're not gonna miss the BB58, a friend of mine sold his BB58 and bought a 114060 instead, no regret.

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2020, 08:19:51 PM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

I think you got a better deal instead. Can't imagine choosing the BB58 blue over a 114060.

I seen one last Saturday when I done my shopping at Lot 10. Maybe you all can shop there.

Pretty sure is for display only and not for sale..

And I thought they were only doing this with ROLEX sports models...   :Scolding:

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2020, 08:47:15 PM »

Not all ADs collect full payment. But whether you leave only your contact details or made full payment, your allocation priority depends on your buying history with the AD: is anyone surprised?
If you’re a walk-in stranger, you can be sure of a long wait: 6 to 12 months, or more for the bracelet, if you read posts in international forums like Watchuseek.
Additionally, Covid-19 is slowing down production and worldwide shipping, which is why prices have gone crazy, actively selling well over RM20k, BNIB or LNIB, in reputable sites (forget Chrono24) like rolexforums.com
Sorry, just voicing the reality for anyone in the porn blue BB58 queue. I stand corrected.

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2020, 06:19:15 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

I think you got a better deal instead. Can't imagine choosing the BB58 blue over a 114060.

I seen one last Saturday when I done my shopping at Lot 10. Maybe you all can shop there.

Pretty sure is for display only and not for sale..

And I thought they were only doing this with ROLEX sports models...   :Scolding:

Same here, i thought only apply to Rolex models, but surprises me when the first day of launch in Malaysia sharp at 1pm you see watch already on Display on most of the ADs...

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2020, 06:21:41 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

The misallocation happen sometimes because the sales folks are not in sync with each other... and don't forget the manager also did compensate him with something better

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2020, 08:04:22 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

The misallocation happen sometimes because the sales folks are not in sync with each other... and don't forget the manager also did compensate him with something better
This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.

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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2020, 08:06:30 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

The misallocation happen sometimes because the sales folks are not in sync with each other... and don't forget the manager also did compensate him with something better
This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.
True that. By selling off the 114060 you can get the bb58 at subsidized price if you already have a sub. Great deal


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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2020, 08:11:02 AM »

This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.

Well.. maybe someone else who was promised a 114060 and has yet to pick it up is going to be pissed when he finally walks in..

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« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2020, 08:13:28 AM »

This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.

Well.. maybe someone else who was promised a 114060 and has yet to pick it up is going to be pissed when he finally walks in..

What's the compensation then?  ;D

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« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2020, 08:17:56 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

The misallocation happen sometimes because the sales folks are not in sync with each other... and don't forget the manager also did compensate him with something better
This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.
True that. By selling off the 114060 you can get the bb58 at subsidized price if you already have a sub. Great deal


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Sound too good to be true, it is just a Tudor and SA decided to used Rolex as compensation albeit it is double the price.

If I'm the SA I'll be like: Sorry x100 times, please accept my sincere apology and next shipment is not far away. And yeah, don't forget your mineral water bottle, it is free yo.  :D


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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2020, 08:56:49 AM »
Congratulations on your new Tudor BB58 Blue. The AD sold my allocation due to a mix-up among their sales personnel and i was thoroughly pissed off as I flew in to pick up the piece having paid in full. Manager compensated by offering me a 114060 instead.

Don't think your order was ”misallocated.”
It’s more likely someone else was more important to the store than you. That’s why one shouldn't make full payment and queue on a ”first come first serve” basis. That’s utter crap because the store will still prioritize their regular clients, even if last in the queue, or haven't made any deposit payment. Can't blame the store as business now is so bad.
So to queue with full payment means one is locked into a long, uncertain wait with worldwide demand for the watch so strong.
Additionally, can the store where full payment was made survive the Covid-19 crisis hitting all businesses? Think of one particular airline in trouble which can't or delays in refunding canceled or prepaid flights.

The misallocation happen sometimes because the sales folks are not in sync with each other... and don't forget the manager also did compensate him with something better
This incident also proof that those Rolex Sport Models are always in their safe. I bet even the 114060 have long waiting list and one can simply sell it as compensation.
True that. By selling off the 114060 you can get the bb58 at subsidized price if you already have a sub. Great deal


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Sound too good to be true, it is just a Tudor and SA decided to used Rolex as compensation albeit it is double the price.

If I'm the SA I'll be like: Sorry x100 times, please accept my sincere apology and next shipment is not far away. And yeah, don't forget your mineral water bottle, it is free yo.  :D



Well, I have been buying from said AD for about 15 years so i will not say that this is open to all. Plus I am from out of town. I guess the manager did not want to sour relations. After all they did make me fly in and with all the SOPs in place due to the current pandemic, it is truly a hassle. I am not going to complain given the current situation. I have a no-date diver back in the collection and I am a happy camper. 
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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2020, 08:37:21 AM »
Whoa. In the Msian context, the BB58 has appreciated by 34.3% to RM19k from the AD retail price of RM14k, according to Chrono24 sales data. Better than playing the KLSE. Lol.

Will till the next BB58 series appear as the GMT and the green ”hulk.” The prices will skyrocket like the glove counters. Lol


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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2020, 02:27:48 PM »

it is generally believed Chrono24 prices are generally 20% above real market prices so ....

And asking prices and actual selling prices can vary. Of course you get the occasional spender who doesn't look at the amount when spending.

Look at the WTS section and you see many "hot" watches at prices below Chrono24 but it's still waiting for a buyer ...


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« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2020, 02:39:13 PM »

it is generally believed Chrono24 prices are generally 20% above real market prices so ....

And asking prices and actual selling prices can vary. Of course you get the occasional spender who doesn't look at the amount when spending.

Look at the WTS section and you see many "hot" watches at prices below Chrono24 but it's still waiting for a buyer ...

Agree with you bro. As a golden rule, i tend to look at the lowest price for a particular piece to gauge prices as opposed to the highest or even the mid-point. I feel that Chrono24 prices are based off the USD and that certain watches at those prices may sell overseas but not locally.
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Re: New Tudor BB58 release
« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2020, 03:09:21 PM »

Prices of anything hinge on supply and demand. In the context of the BB58, and particularly the Blue model, demand is running far ahead of supply. So as much as I won't bet my life on Chrono24 prices, as posted earlier, the price appreciation cited by WatchPro can't be inflated. Reputable sites like rolexforums.com transact the Blue at a similar price point.
Again, above assertion only applies to the BB58, particularly the Blue. Cheers.

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« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2020, 03:10:09 PM »

Agree with you bro. As a golden rule, i tend to look at the lowest price for a particular piece to gauge prices as opposed to the highest or even the mid-point. I feel that Chrono24 prices are based off the USD and that certain watches at those prices may sell overseas but not locally.

OK.. getting a bit off topic but ...

There was an article about how some sellers are grouped on Chrono24 to push up prices of certain models. They do not physically have the watch but will source it off each other when someone buys. This is easy to accomplish since you don't need to post the actual serial number of the watch you are selling.

Coupled of course with the fact that most EU countries have roughly 20% VAT on top of the actual price so ...

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« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2020, 07:09:08 PM »
This makes absolute sense as it’s win win for them. No wonder prices on chrono is so high...