Post by: faizall on September 20, 2021, 05:44:02 AM
Just wondering, did anyone ever try the Case A below and manage to secure a unit?
Me: never bought any Rolex unit yet so far, either form the boutique or from the 3rd party market
Case A: I'm just walk in to Rolex boutique, share with them my interest for Rolex Explorer 124270 and listed my name in the interest list (no waiting list anymore they said, just interest list LOL)
The main big question will be, as I walk out from the boutique either my name was listed in the list or it just gone somewhere over the rainbow with some unicorn and RIP there (in the dustbin). If someone ever tried this and it works please let me know so I can have some faith in my action. :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: G.MAC on September 20, 2021, 08:45:48 AM
Post by: c4all on September 20, 2021, 10:17:57 AM
Post by: bulletnos on September 20, 2021, 10:57:03 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 20, 2021, 12:02:13 PM
Post by: bulletnos on September 20, 2021, 03:12:14 PM
In all fairness, the likelihood is slim to none, especially with no purchase history. Some folks go as far as saying that boat has long sailed away. Last year my regular AD guy told me even spending 100k doesn't guarantee a 'call'. This year I hear that figure has gone up to 300k. But well...belum cuba belum tau la kan? Doesn't hurt to get in the shop n try our luck, but just leave it at that, a try. Don't get too hung up on it, n continue to enjoy what other maisons have available.
Agreed. many other fish in the sea!
Post by: faizall on September 20, 2021, 03:36:12 PM
From what I know, they will keep record in the system once you've given your interest. But whether they call or not is another thing. And it depends on the individual boutique itself as well. Not all AD's are indifferent, and not all AD's are nice - don't generalize, and don't give up! Happy hunting
In all fairness, the likelihood is slim to none, especially with no purchase history. Some folks go as far as saying that boat has long sailed away. Last year my regular AD guy told me even spending 100k doesn't guarantee a 'call'. This year I hear that figure has gone up to 300k. But well...belum cuba belum tau la kan? Doesn't hurt to get in the shop n try our luck, but just leave it at that, a try. Don't get too hung up on it, n continue to enjoy what other maisons have available.
Thanks guys. Haha agreed. Totally just try my luck. Will update this forum if miracle happen and I got a call from them later down the road. Most probably gonna have to ask my grandson to accompany me to collect the watch by that time. ;D
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 20, 2021, 04:00:06 PM
U need to spend around 150k for them to offer you a exp or AK.
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 20, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
In all fairness, the likelihood is slim to none, especially with no purchase history. Some folks go as far as saying that boat has long sailed away. Last year my regular AD guy told me even spending 100k doesn't guarantee a 'call'. This year I hear that figure has gone up to 300k. But well...belum cuba belum tau la kan? Doesn't hurt to get in the shop n try our luck, but just leave it at that, a try. Don't get too hung up on it, n continue to enjoy what other maisons have available.
Yes, just revised. Certain hot sport models now need 300k spending to secure one ...
Post by: dpkong on September 20, 2021, 06:29:06 PM
1. it depends if said person has his own interest ahead of customers ie. does he have special deals lined up with a grey dealer.
2. are you someone who has done your homework and trying your luck to get a sports model so you can make a profit selling it after you get it..
3. do you look like one of those "innocent looking" people sent in by other grey dealers to try and secure a sports model
4. or are you a wannabe grey dealer who is looking to "network" and get a new supplier
Communication is key and if you are lucky enough to meet the right person in an AD and convince them you're not just in it to make a profit and truly looking to buy to keep, then your chances are higher. This would be your biggest hurdle. Normally, these AD have a long list of loyal customers all waiting for new stocks to add to their collection so the AD will obviously try to satisfy that demand first. However, if you're able to strike a good relationship with the AD and communicate regularly, they will remember you when your desired piece shows up. That of course depends if they think of you and not someone else.
So technically, it's true there isn't a list written on the wall, it's more like who they remember...
I recall reading comments here from someone who kept complaining about how hard it was to get pieces at an AD and all the regular horror stories but months later end up selling many pieces here so obviously a grey dealer.
The 124270 does not seem to be a very "hot" model but it is a recent release and there would be some demand for it. Expect demand to taper out quite quickly and better chances next year. Did you ask if it would be easier to get the 124273 instead?
Post by: Gary Teong on September 20, 2021, 07:00:28 PM
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Post by: faizall on September 20, 2021, 07:45:58 PM
Every day, many people will walk into an AD and ask about "getting on the list" for a sports model.. and depending on whether you're talking to an SA (Sales Assistant) or the Manager....
1. it depends if said person has his own interest ahead of customers ie. does he have special deals lined up with a grey dealer.
2. are you someone who has done your homework and trying your luck to get a sports model so you can make a profit selling it after you get it..
3. do you look like one of those "innocent looking" people sent in by other grey dealers to try and secure a sports model
4. or are you a wannabe grey dealer who is looking to "network" and get a new supplier
Communication is key and if you are lucky enough to meet the right person in an AD and convince them you're not just in it to make a profit and truly looking to buy to keep, then your chances are higher. This would be your biggest hurdle. Normally, these AD have a long list of loyal customers all waiting for new stocks to add to their collection so the AD will obviously try to satisfy that demand first. However, if you're able to strike a good relationship with the AD and communicate regularly, they will remember you when your desired piece shows up. That of course depends if they think of you and not someone else.
So technically, it's true there isn't a list written on the wall, it's more like who they remember...
I recall reading comments here from someone who kept complaining about how hard it was to get pieces at an AD and all the regular horror stories but months later end up selling many pieces here so obviously a grey dealer.
The 124270 does not seem to be a very "hot" model but it is a recent release and there would be some demand for it. Expect demand to taper out quite quickly and better chances next year. Did you ask if it would be easier to get the 124273 instead?
Nicely put Sifu. I was digging the grey market earlier for the 14270 as this is my dream watch. Then the 124270 pop up with a shining armor intrigued me. I believe I just met with the SA during my visit, share my interest and story of how I endup in front of him that day just to try my luck. Prev I was visiting their next door rival Omega (literally next door at Suria KLCC) for the Omega Aquaterra 38mm to try on hands but my heart still goes to the Explorer. Haha lets hope for some miracle. 124273 dual tone, maybe not yet for me. :D
How about a DJ. I was still getting offers on several ss models black/white/roman markers within weeks. Finally settled on a silver dial. Apparently there is also a long waiting list for blue dials and the new models.
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I've been offered with the DJ last week too, but I can just afford only 1 unit for now. So I just save if the miracle happen. Lol
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 20, 2021, 07:49:21 PM
Still can get, but need to wait ..
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 21, 2021, 02:35:24 PM
Most probably gonna have to ask my grandson to accompany me to collect the watch by that time. ;D
:Laughing_on_floor:
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Post by: bulletnos on September 21, 2021, 04:18:05 PM
Most probably gonna have to ask my grandson to accompany me to collect the watch by that time. ;D
:Laughing_on_floor:
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funniest thing I've seen today...! :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: faizall on September 22, 2021, 06:15:14 AM
Most probably gonna have to ask my grandson to accompany me to collect the watch by that time. ;D
:Laughing_on_floor:
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The most accurate statement of all time! lol ;D
Post by: toastgrillecheese on September 25, 2021, 11:27:51 AM
By coincidence, I walked into an AD and saw a ladies datejust in a configuration that I would like to gift my partner. I had initially thought of getting it next year, but since its already right there, I purchased it.
Prior to this, I had already included my name in a "list", and obviously there were no calls. It wasn't for a sports model, but an OP. My name was in that "list" since early this year. Each time I check with the SA (even times when I checked in for a 36mm datejust), the same answer is given, will check, not sure, etc. I think they are trained not to say no.
Anyway, I've oftentimes read about building a purchase history, but this was not initially discussed or brought up in any way by the SA. This changed when I purchased a piece off their display cabinet.
I wanted to set things straight as I was initially contemplating of purchasing from the grey market. I asked the SA if it was impossible to get a piece from the AD, as I've been waiting for a long time and that I was intending to get the Explorer 2 off the grey market. The answer he gave filled me with hope. He said that since I've already purchased from him, he now knows my preference of which piece I'd like. When the piece does come in, he'll offer it to me. He said that although I wouldn't be able to get it immediately, but I will be able to get it. He also advised me to not get from the grey market, as its very expensive, why waste money. As I was walking out the door, he told me to wait for the good news.
Obviously, this made me really happy. I genuinely thought that I'll be able to actually purchase something I want at retail.
However, when I finally gifted the watch to my partner and went with her to get it sized at the AD, he tried upselling me to build a purchase history of 80k, to which he'll put my name in for a sub date instead of the explorer 2. When I asked what would help me build that purchase history, he told me that its basically any non-professional watch models (e.g., datejusts). This is strange, because even if I wanted to, there weren't any pieces to purchase in the first place, so how am I supposed to build a purchase history?
The store I went to was selling only Rolex and Patek. I was thinking that I could build a purchase history with the company itself, and so I went over to their other store which has a wider selection of brands. But, when I was there, the SA told me that purchase history is based on which store I've bought from, and not an overall purchase history from the company.
So... as much as I tried to bend backwards to fulfill this ridiculous demand, it is completely impractical to build a purchase history with a store that doesn't have anything to sell. If this is how they would like to do business, I would think that adding jewelry or more brands at their store would've been helpful.
Anyway, I went over to a boutique and got a non-Rolex piece I liked. At this point, I'm not even sure if I'll ever be called to purchase a Rolex. Would've appreciated if SAs could just give a firm answer yes/ no or just state beforehand how much purchase history they would like to offer me a watch. At the least I know what I would need to spend to get what I want, instead of the what ifs or maybes. But I suppose this is wishful thinking :Dancing_banana:
An overall frustrating experience, which is why people go to grey.
tl;dr
1) SA will talk to you about building a purchase history once you've purchased something from them. Otherwise, they'll just take your name and put you on a list, which I assume is a make belief list that serves no purpose.
2) I was offered a sub date at 80k purchase history (non sports models). Unsure if this is a sure thing or a way to sell me more stuff for a chance of getting it. This was a verbal proposal only.
3) It is best to buy from stores that sells Rolex + other brands. Otherwise, you'd have nothing to buy to build your purchase history.
I personally think its too much of a hassle...but wouldn't want to pay grey prices also. In the mean time, I'll just enjoy life with what I have. Who knows, there might be that 1% chance that I'll get a call to pick up that Rolex one day :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: gunsnroses on September 25, 2021, 12:26:40 PM
So this time, I went in and explained my wrist size and my conundrum when purchasing watches. I did the same with 2 different Rolex ADs and I left my name there mentioning I would like a 36mm steel date just should the opportunity arise. This was sometime in Oct last year (2020).
Within about a month of leaving my name, I got a call from 2 separate ADs, the first one offering me a 36mm 126234 with white roman dial. I turned it down as I didn't like the dial combination. A week later, I was offered from another AD a blue faced 126200 (baton hands). Immediately I jumped at the opportunity and bought it outright (no discount of course).
This experience has since renewed my faith in the ADs but the sales lady that offered me the 126200 has since been transferred to sell Hublot instead and I am not really a fan of Hublot watches. My next grail is the new 124270 Explorer 1. However, I believe this will be much more difficult to achieve.
Anyway, I have started my journey again and hopefully it will bear fruit again.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 25, 2021, 01:39:29 PM
I have to say the idea of buying from stores that carry the desired brand as well as others makes sense - there really is no way to build a product purchase history when there is no product to purchase. Having said that though, I would caution that its probably a good idea to find out and make it clear whether the purchase would be taken into account towards the "history" so to speak, and how much is actually needed. Wouldn't want to have to dump a whole wad of cash and still end up on a fantasy wishlist.
Out of curiosity, are Datejusts that highly desirable these days that it requires a call back? (Either SS or TT?)
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 25, 2021, 02:55:13 PM
Thx for sharing ur experiences guys. Its an interesting dichotomy indeed, between disappointment and hope.
I have to say the idea of buying from stores that carry the desired brand as well as others makes sense - there really is no way to build a product purchase history when there is no product to purchase. Having said that though, I would caution that its probably a good idea to find out and make it clear whether the purchase would be taken into account towards the "history" so to speak, and how much is actually needed. Wouldn't want to have to dump a whole wad of cash and still end up on a fantasy wishlist.
Out of curiosity, are Datejusts that highly desirable these days that it requires a call back? (Either SS or TT?)
All OP and DJ Ss r now in ‘Sport Model’ Category..need to archive certain profile to get one..
Post by: dpkong on September 25, 2021, 06:45:41 PM
a. the bitter ones who can't seem to get any sports models at AD
b. the grey dealers who are here to push you towards that market
c. or those that made a futile attempt at an AD and have since given up
remember if you're in a store to buy only Rolex or any other watch that has a premium on the grey market, the SA will see you as a potential flipper and if you're going to profit from it, they would also want to as well.
those who do actually get what they want from ADs rarely if ever want to share who/where they get it from..
;D
::)
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 25, 2021, 08:10:03 PM
d. the one who like to eat popcorn n watch the fireworks :Laughing_on_floor:
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 26, 2021, 10:41:36 AM
I'd like to add another demographic here:
d. the one who like to eat popcorn n watch the fireworks :Laughing_on_floor:
Lolx!
Post by: faizall on September 28, 2021, 02:39:04 PM
Post by: dpkong on September 28, 2021, 05:53:14 PM
Hahaha thanks for all the reply. I will continue to try in the other AD and let see if I manage to secure one too. I've been browse around and the new 124270was selling like a hot cakes everywhere. maybe I should consider 126000 too (if it's available). well the watch hunting will always be the part of the experience and either you end up with a false hope or you manage to secured one...or I'll just go with the Seiko mods to Explorer 36mm and satisfied myself. lol :Laughing_on_floor:
buying 126000 just because it's available may not satisfy the desire and you'll probably still look at the 124270 and wish for one.
if you had a good conversation with the SA where you left your name, pop in the store maybe every 3 weeks and say hi, show them your Seiko mods.... who knows you might annoy them enough to make them sell you one to get rid of you....
Post by: bulletnos on September 28, 2021, 08:02:05 PM
Hahaha thanks for all the reply. I will continue to try in the other AD and let see if I manage to secure one too. I've been browse around and the new 124270was selling like a hot cakes everywhere. maybe I should consider 126000 too (if it's available). well the watch hunting will always be the part of the experience and either you end up with a false hope or you manage to secured one...or I'll just go with the Seiko mods to Explorer 36mm and satisfied myself. lol :Laughing_on_floor:
buying 126000 just because it's available may not satisfy the desire and you'll probably still look at the 124270 and wish for one.o
if you had a good conversation with the SA where you left your name, pop in the store maybe every 3 weeks and say hi, show them your Seiko mods.... who knows you might annoy them enough to make them sell you one to get rid of you....
Good strategy! Hahahahah ;D
And just be a genuine buyer. Dont come off as a flipper, and your chances of getting called is higher in my experience.
Post by: cL0wn on September 28, 2021, 10:04:32 PM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on September 29, 2021, 12:11:16 AM
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 29, 2021, 05:56:24 AM
Can do a grey for less hassles to stroke your AD.
Post by: swleong on September 29, 2021, 10:07:37 AM
I am 1 of those "bitter" guys that can't get onto the AD's list and also won't pay extra RM50k to RM100k premium to get the watch from the grey dealers.
It would be interesting to see how those paying the premiums going to sell/flip their watches later once the game has come to a saturation point.
Don't get me wrong, I am a big Rolex fan and also lucky enough to get 1 before the craze. Cheers.
Post by: Gentlemen101 on September 29, 2021, 10:29:31 AM
Just grab what u want …
Post by: bulletnos on September 29, 2021, 11:40:21 AM
The other day I walked into an AD to resize a watch, and noticed some SS WG DJ28 for ladies on display...a few 31mm and 41 mm half gold...goes to show they still have watches to sell - sometimes it is "right place, right time."
Of course, if you're only after the Professional Models, you'd be thoroughly disappointed.
Just sharing my 2 cents and personal experience.
Post by: dpkong on September 29, 2021, 06:12:59 PM
People, just stop feeding both the AD and grey dealers and this stupid game will slow down and stop eventually, hopefully.
I am 1 of those "bitter" guys that can't get onto the AD's list and also won't pay extra RM50k to RM100k premium to get the watch from the grey dealers.
It would be interesting to see how those paying the premiums going to sell/flip their watches later once the game has come to a saturation point.
Don't get me wrong, I am a big Rolex fan and also lucky enough to get 1 before the craze. Cheers.
so much truth here.. just stop feeding the grey.. is it worth paying double or more for a Rolex which is already over-priced?
Just visit and talk to an AD and explore other brands..
while I still do get the Rolex when offered the one I want, I do go with other brands as well and some of them do make you question the infatuation with Rolex
and as another member here said, just be a genuine buyer.. you can try to think of all ways to sweet talk a SA but I'm pretty sure they've heard all those stories before.. and all those watches sold as new by grey dealers, most come from flippers despite many thinking that it's just the SA making a deal with grey dealers. Masterminds work with "runners" to buy new watches from AD or from people who have bought from AD, and then pass the stock on to grey dealers..
Post by: faizall on October 12, 2021, 06:35:45 PM
Post by: agbyee on October 13, 2021, 07:20:50 AM
) no news. My guess is, 70-80% of stocks are channeled to third party resellers with a 'small fee' by whoever in the AD.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Post by: Kesharoo on October 13, 2021, 12:46:19 PM
:Confused:
Post by: ExplorerII on October 13, 2021, 05:22:04 PM
Post by: bulletnos on October 13, 2021, 10:09:53 PM
Just try being a friend with the SA. Express keen interest in watches. Be a genuine buyer. Of course, it helps if you demonstrate that you are not a flipper, and a potential loyal customer.
Cheers
Post by: faizall on January 03, 2022, 01:41:38 PM
Well gonna rock my BB58 for now! Haha.
Happy new year guys. :Cheers:
Post by: bulletnos on January 03, 2022, 02:49:04 PM
Just an update, after a numerous visit to the SA and disappointment, I did my research and I pull my trigger with BB58 and enjoy my year end holiday with the remaining saving. With the latest price hikes and the availability of the unit always like a unicorn (hard to find) so better for me to move on. There's a few threads on the prices tanking, prices hike in the forum..and most of the response that hit me was saying the person that try hard to get from the SA right now is a potential flipper. even in this thread there's a few provoking comment too. There's still a person like me out there..wanting a unit just for satisfaction, to commemorate some achievements for that year..rewarding themselves but don't want to spend at greys since the prices was so ridiculous. It's like buying a car..not all thinking of RV when buying a car, some really find their passion in owning the unit that they already dreamed off. it's satisfaction.
Well gonna rock my BB58 for now! Haha.
Happy new year guys. :Cheers:
Well, welcome to the BB58 club then! :thumbsup: Enjoy that amazing watch! Cheers
Post by: dpkong on January 03, 2022, 02:51:18 PM
Just an update, after a numerous visit to the SA and disappointment, I did my research and I pull my trigger with BB58 and enjoy my year end holiday with the remaining saving. With the latest price hikes and the availability of the unit always like a unicorn (hard to find) so better for me to move on. There's a few threads on the prices tanking, prices hike in the forum..and most of the response that hit me was saying the person that try hard to get from the SA right now is a potential flipper. even in this thread there's a few provoking comment too. There's still a person like me out there..wanting a unit just for satisfaction, to commemorate some achievements for that year..rewarding themselves but don't want to spend at greys since the prices was so ridiculous. It's like buying a car..not all thinking of RV when buying a car, some really find their passion in owning the unit that they already dreamed off. it's satisfaction.
Well gonna rock my BB58 for now! Haha.
Happy new year guys. :Cheers:
The situation is just too lucrative with Rolex and just like the recent chicken/vegetable price hike issue, secret hands are at work.
Looking at recent Rolex price increments, the steel sports models suffered the biggest hike and only the really popular ones... for eg. the YM2 remained the same but the Skydweller went up. Very clever strategy to slowly close the price gap between steel and gold models. Will it cause the market to cool down? Unlikely but then again, who can predict the buyer's mindset?
Just move on with a different brand. Tudor, Omega, Blancpain, JLC all make very nice watches and they're not hyped yet.. with Tudor, no matter how hard the grey market tried, it just doesn't work.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 03, 2022, 02:57:35 PM
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Post by: revvd on January 03, 2022, 03:52:37 PM
Anyway, I don't really see the Rolex situation abating. Supply and demand. I bit the bullet and got what I wanted at grey prices. I don't like it, but I just don't foresee the possibility of me being a nobody, getting what I want on retail.
There used to be a romantic notion where you're supposed to buy your first Rolex finally when you've "made" it, and savoring the journey to pick one up in the AD. Sadly no more
Post by: G.MAC on January 04, 2022, 04:50:58 AM
Post by: swleong on January 04, 2022, 12:38:28 PM
Many who didn't make it on the AD list (and don't want to buy grey) will end up buying Tudor watches, for the temporary cure of Rolex thirsts, and eventually end up selling them later and save up to buy Rolex (at higher price).
The winner, Hans Wilsdorf Foundation.
Of course, there are many who are genuinely love their Tudor as well.
Post by: faizall on January 06, 2022, 05:52:34 AM
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Post by: ray6969 on January 06, 2022, 07:14:06 AM
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 06, 2022, 11:39:40 AM
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Semua barang naik, hujan saja turun ;) eh that's actually not too bad la, I had to wait for a month for mine when I bought it. Interestng that there's still a wait period at all, considering the hype piece right now is the panda dial chronos.
Post by: pleasuresaurus on January 06, 2022, 11:44:03 AM
i love its....i will wait until economic solve it especially law of demand and supply...in time being, there are model example like a (bling2 /2 tone/DJ 29mm ) that we can buy in retail prices (just wait and relationship building approach and see how it goes with AD) and i understand in desirable "hot model" which is hard to get, but keep calm and keep CONSISTENT since we have 5 or 6 AD at Malaysia....keep call/msg/email/ monthly just to says "hi".... hahhahaaha..keep calm and show that to AD...we are not a flipper...i understand when its come desirable "hot model", since VVIP is top in the list...then professional flipper (grey market)..last is average normal "joe" (normal customer)... especially in watch games in Rollie /AP/ PP/ VC....in term of "horology"...i better save my hard earn money to "independent brand", my holy grail is Konstantin Chaykin Joker....
Chaykin is a fantastic piece, the guy really demonstrates that high horology doesn't necessarily mean plain and boring, the fun ways the color and designs come together. If ur looking at independents, I'd also suggest checking out Armin Strom, their Gravity Equal Force collection is also very interesting to look at, if not as playful as Chaykin.
Post by: W3ll on January 06, 2022, 12:10:50 PM
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Which SM? speedmaster / seamaster? Seamaster line already has it's price increase in Nov / Dec 2021
Post by: faizall on January 06, 2022, 12:19:03 PM
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Semua barang naik, hujan saja turun ;) eh that's actually not too bad la, I had to wait for a month for mine when I bought it. Interestng that there's still a wait period at all, considering the hype piece right now is the panda dial chronos.
Haha correct. What to do, the only SA that I manage to make friends don't sell any Rolex, but manage to expedite a bit for Tudor. :Laughing_on_floor:
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Which SM? speedmaster / seamaster? Seamaster line already has it's price increase in Nov / Dec 2021
Ouh really? It's Seamaster line. back then I was comparing between SM300P, aquaterra or this BB58. So the SA told me that if would like to purchase the Omega, this is the time or else later price will increase in 2022. no more extra discount up to 15%, only 5% same as showroom. That aquaterra 39mm blue really pull me in.
Post by: bulletnos on January 06, 2022, 02:29:29 PM
Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Semua barang naik, hujan saja turun ;) eh that's actually not too bad la, I had to wait for a month for mine when I bought it. Interestng that there's still a wait period at all, considering the hype piece right now is the panda dial chronos.
Haha correct. What to do, the only SA that I manage to make friends don't sell any Rolex, but manage to expedite a bit for Tudor. :Laughing_on_floor:Welcome aboard the 58 bandwagon! We got lotsa cookies and straps! :Laughing_on_floor: its on order ka?
I have to agree, while rolex suffers from the flippening, tudor is not really there at all. Really no point buying grey at ridiculous prices when the watches r readily available at ADs, at most with a short wait.
On a side note, while its not gonna be making u money, a 58 on secondary market wont lose u much either.
Haha it takes me just 3weeks to get it. cool watch. enjoying it everyday n yes sir, it is a strap monster. gonna enjoy this honeymoon phase with this watch for a very long time :Dancing_banana:
Btw during my survey last time, Watatime did inform that Omega is currently plan to increase the price of all SM lines in 2022. Just a heads up.
Which SM? speedmaster / seamaster? Seamaster line already has it's price increase in Nov / Dec 2021
Ouh really? It's Seamaster line. back then I was comparing between SM300P, aquaterra or this BB58. So the SA told me that if would like to purchase the Omega, this is the time or else later price will increase in 2022. no more extra discount up to 15%, only 5% same as showroom. That aquaterra 39mm blue really pull me in.
Yala...I also bought the SM300P in Dec2021 - just after the price increase and seems it will increase again. Was actually considering the Moonwatch but now the new ones are so expensive...RM25k for hesalite before discount...yeesh
Post by: W3ll on January 06, 2022, 03:56:39 PM
Post by: ray6969 on January 07, 2022, 11:40:07 AM
i love its....i will wait until economic solve it especially law of demand and supply...in time being, there are model example like a (bling2 /2 tone/DJ 29mm ) that we can buy in retail prices (just wait and relationship building approach and see how it goes with AD) and i understand in desirable "hot model" which is hard to get, but keep calm and keep CONSISTENT since we have 5 or 6 AD at Malaysia....keep call/msg/email/ monthly just to says "hi".... hahhahaaha..keep calm and show that to AD...we are not a flipper...i understand when its come desirable "hot model", since VVIP is top in the list...then professional flipper (grey market)..last is average normal "joe" (normal customer)... especially in watch games in Rollie /AP/ PP/ VC....in term of "horology"...i better save my hard earn money to "independent brand", my holy grail is Konstantin Chaykin Joker....
Chaykin is a fantastic piece, the guy really demonstrates that high horology doesn't necessarily mean plain and boring, the fun ways the color and designs come together. If ur looking at independents, I'd also suggest checking out Armin Strom, their Gravity Equal Force collection is also very interesting to look at, if not as playful as Chaykin.
Yes bro, we have a lots possibility in high horology especially on design/colour/in house/playful . I keen on "independents brand" and vintage. I will share show of website.
https://wristmons.chaykin.ru/eng/.
Feel free to ask me any questions and just let me know if you need any further assistance!
Sincerely,
Serj Tjutrjumov
CEO of the Watch Manufacture “Konstantin Chaykin”
Tel. +7 (495) 988 73 72
WatsApp: +7 964 555 20 56
WeChat ID: Serj_Tjutrjumov
http://chaykin.ru/
115407, Rechnikov, 15-2, Moscow, Russia
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