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Title: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 14, 2018, 10:23:11 PM
Hi MWF,

I am currently hunting for my first automatic watch and my budget is capped at RM10,000.

The following are the shortlisted options of new / unworn watches which caught my attention:


Prior to my hunt, I have visited local ADs and did online researches on the shortlisted watches.

And here I am now, seeking advice / suggestions / recommendations from MWF Sifu & members on which automatic diver should I purchase.

You may also suggest pre-owned watches as alternatives to the above.

Your assistance is much appreciated and thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: cychung on January 15, 2018, 06:12:00 AM
For me longines.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: mikeylacroix on January 15, 2018, 06:19:54 AM
Tudor black Bay or stretch it out to a pelagos. Pre owned
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: rnsm1979 on January 15, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
for 10 k budget, there would more more option than the 4 listed if you willing to stretch your budget a little bit more

tudor bb, pelagos as stated by sifu is those within the range

or Omega PO and Panerai base model (pre-own) should be slightly over in this range


Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: DLwatchaddict on January 15, 2018, 09:27:39 AM
Go for Tudor Black bay or Pelagius.


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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: mwfchai on January 15, 2018, 10:00:47 AM
For 10k..lots of options right? Pelagos tops the list

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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Danielo on January 15, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
Is an Oris Big Crown ProPilot Altimeter RM10k?
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: D'Andy on January 15, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: Danielo on January 15, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
Is an Oris Big Crown ProPilot Altimeter RM10k?

This is an aviation model, no? TS seems to be focusing on the diver genre. Perhaps over-looked, but the newly-released Seiko SLA017 may be a good choice too. Heritage re-released, with a healthy dosage of discount from its RRP these days.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Cocas on January 15, 2018, 03:46:19 PM
1. MMT500 - O.P.V. Marina Militare (brand new piece about RM 5200)
2. Seiko MarineMaster 300m (brand new piece about RM 9500)
3. Preowned Tudor Pelagos or Black Bay about RM 10000
4. Squale Matic 600m or Tiger 300m with Bezel lock about RM 5100 for brand new piece.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: spacewalker on January 15, 2018, 05:34:52 PM
Obviously,  your budget is already past the range of those four watches you mention above. Explore more. Get out from comfort zone.  you almost there for better choice etc: Tudor BB  Omega, B&R 03-92 diver. I've been there and done that.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: wristalk on January 15, 2018, 05:59:24 PM
If getting a new timepiece, I'll go with the sixty-five diver. If preowned, Tudor Black Bay. Or stretch a little more to Omega Seamaster.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Danielo on January 15, 2018, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: D'Andy on January 15, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
Quote from: Danielo on January 15, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
Is an Oris Big Crown ProPilot Altimeter RM10k?

This is an aviation model, no? TS seems to be focusing on the diver genre. Perhaps over-looked, but the newly-released Seiko SLA017 may be a good choice too. Heritage re-released, with a healthy dosage of discount from its RRP these days.
Whoopps.

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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 15, 2018, 09:45:09 PM
Thanks for your feedback and suggestions MWF Sifus.

For now, the Oris Divers Sixty-Five & Longines HydroConquest are leading the race in the poll.

It is true that the divers in the poll are below RM10,000 but this is the max budget I can stretch.

I also appreciate your suggestions to go for better quality pre-owned options like Omega, Tudor, BR, Squale & Seiko MarineMaster.

To be honest, Omega Seamaster & Tudor Pelagos are my dream watches.

Not sure if I can find a Seamaster or a Tudor BB/Pelagos around my budget but I will explore the pre-owned options.

If any Sifu can recommend / share any good websites or ADs to look for pre-owned watches, it will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: dexson on January 16, 2018, 05:30:26 AM
Hi There !

Welcome into the world of watches !

Just my 2 cents.. as many sifus around says, buy what makes u smile and happy !

In the poll given by your goodself, the oris diver 65 has richest and most appealing history to me and it will be an easier sale in the future should you decided to upgrade.

Nontheless, another option you have is to save up a little longer and go for your dream watch ! A used pelagos is just slightly more than your budget and a brand new one isn't that far away either !

Good luck with your hunt !
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: dualcarb on January 16, 2018, 11:29:50 AM
The SLA 017s have gone crazy expensive these days, going well above RM13.5K. Although it’s a really cool watch, I wouldn’t wanna pay that kind of money for an 8L movement. I agree with cocas and would happily recommend the SBDX017 Marine Master300.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 17, 2018, 12:50:16 PM
Thanks for your feedback Sifus.

I have expanded my option to pre-owned watches as per the suggestions.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Yoda on January 17, 2018, 04:56:55 PM
Tudor Black Bay 36mm , 2 years ago was about RM9k plus. If still at this price, Tudor has better resale value
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: SLK on January 17, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
Not sure if there'll be anyone who agrees with me but with that kind of budget I'll go for a Seiko diver (SKX007 or Seiko Turtle are great options) and a pre-owned Rolex (like a 6694).
Seiko diver for your rough wear and a 6694 with leather strap as your dress watch.

You'll get 2 amazing watches with change to spare.

But if you're set on a new swiss made diver, Oris 65 will be my pick.

Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: stone_gossard on January 18, 2018, 05:26:41 PM
longines legend diver
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Timeless on January 19, 2018, 08:51:06 AM
Longines gets my vote, perhaps add in Ball diver for your consideration.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 19, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
Thanks again for the feedback MWF Sifus.

I am surprised the Oris Aquis has zero votes after reading and watching good reviews about it.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: vinorus on January 26, 2018, 08:19:25 AM
If I am not wrong, TAG Heuer Aquaracer has a better one with Ceramic bezel, apart from Tudor Pelagos.
If you think it is a plus.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: JohnLee on January 26, 2018, 09:59:54 AM
Can consider the new diver from BR. Abt rm13k new. Quite nice.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 26, 2018, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: JohnLee on January 26, 2018, 09:59:54 AM
Can consider the new diver from BR. Abt rm13k new. Quite nice.

Thanks for the suggestion. I did thought of the new BR Diver, it's a great watch but my budget cannot stretch to that level.

This is an update on my hunt: After much consideration and asking around, I purchased a pre-owned Omega Seamaster.

Thank you MWF Sifus for your suggestions and for opening my eyes to pre-owned watches.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: JohnLee on January 26, 2018, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 26, 2018, 03:13:02 PM
Quote from: JohnLee on January 26, 2018, 09:59:54 AM
Can consider the new diver from BR. Abt rm13k new. Quite nice.

Thanks for the suggestion. I did thought of the new BR Diver, it's a great watch but my budget cannot stretch to that level.

This is an update on my hunt: After much consideration and asking around, I purchased a pre-owned Omega Seamaster.

Thank you MWF Sifus for your suggestions and for opening my eyes to pre-owned watches.

Share with us your wristshot  :)
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(https://preview.ibb.co/jeyRBw/Omega_Seamaster_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bBSa4G)

Lume wristhot

(https://preview.ibb.co/jLQTPG/Omega_Seamaster_Lume_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jxHa4G)
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Cocas on January 27, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_123901_zps1kkrqzu2.jpg)

Lume wristhot

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_125956_zpsyrznol5r.jpg)

Congrats! This is a very nice piece :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: dualcarb on January 27, 2018, 01:20:15 PM
That’s a handsome looking watch...congrats, can’t go wrong with a seamaster...
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: spacewalker on January 27, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_123901_zps1kkrqzu2.jpg)

Lume wristhot

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_125956_zpsyrznol5r.jpg)

What do you think about the bracelet of Omega SMP 300M?


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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: xavern81 on January 28, 2018, 08:43:13 AM
I'll vote for the Tudor BB anyday. Since u can get a 12 month interest free installment plan, why not?
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on January 28, 2018, 08:47:56 AM
Thanks cocas & dualcarb!

Also, thanks for the suggestion xavern81. The Tudor BB was in my shortlist.

Quote from: spacewalker on January 27, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_123901_zps1kkrqzu2.jpg)

Lume wristhot

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_125956_zpsyrznol5r.jpg)

What do you think about the bracelet of Omega SMP 300M?


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The bracelet itself is a hefty piece. Previously, I usually wear rubber straps on my watches. So you can imagine the transition to this bracelet.

It is a love / hate thing and it is highly debated across forums. However, I like how it looks as well as the weight and feel to it.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: JohnLee on January 28, 2018, 02:54:40 PM
Wow congratulations bro! Nice omega seamaster
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Kesharoo on January 29, 2018, 08:02:42 AM
great choice and well done if less than 10k. wear in good health.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: pgone on January 29, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
+1 for Omega PO / seamaster 300, my 2nd choice will be Tudor pelagos..
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: SLK on January 30, 2018, 12:24:37 PM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(https://preview.ibb.co/jeyRBw/Omega_Seamaster_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bBSa4G)

Lume wristhot

(https://preview.ibb.co/jLQTPG/Omega_Seamaster_Lume_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jxHa4G)


Great looking watch!!
Congrats


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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on February 01, 2018, 07:41:25 AM
Thanks JohnLee, Kesharoo & SLK!

Quote from: pgone on January 29, 2018, 05:55:19 PM
+1 for Omega PO / seamaster 300, my 2nd choice will be Tudor pelagos..

Agreed, Seamaster ranks No. 1 and Pelagos No. 2 in my list too.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: elado249 on February 01, 2018, 09:25:01 AM
Go for seikos bro..get the feel 1st & it is value for money. Plus can save some money

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Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: bts on February 04, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Cocas on January 27, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_123901_zps1kkrqzu2.jpg)

Lume wristhot

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_125956_zpsyrznol5r.jpg)

Congrats! This is a very nice piece :thumbsup:

Wow, nice Seamaster. How much u paid for it?
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: raveen13 on February 06, 2018, 10:30:56 AM
How about Jeanrichard Hokusai.  Something unique.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: Davidkhoo17 on February 06, 2018, 09:48:31 PM
Quote from: elado249 on February 01, 2018, 09:25:01 AM
Go for seikos bro..get the feel 1st & it is value for money. Plus can save some money

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Yea, Seikos are the Kings of Value for Money. Good recommendation.

Quote from: bts on February 04, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Quote from: Cocas on January 27, 2018, 11:05:02 AM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_123901_zps1kkrqzu2.jpg)

Lume wristhot

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2/Davidkhoo17/20180127_125956_zpsyrznol5r.jpg)

Congrats! This is a very nice piece :thumbsup:

Wow, nice Seamaster. How much u paid for it?

I got it for around RM8,300 (after nego with seller).

Quote from: raveen13 on February 06, 2018, 10:30:56 AM
How about Jeanrichard Hokusai.  Something unique.

To be honest, I have never heard of the brand. Will look into it. Thanks for the recommendation.
Title: Re: Buying an Automatic Diver with RM10,000 budget
Post by: yehlai on February 07, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Davidkhoo17 on January 27, 2018, 10:19:10 AM
Wristshot incoming

(https://preview.ibb.co/jeyRBw/Omega_Seamaster_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bBSa4G)

Lume wristhot

(https://preview.ibb.co/jLQTPG/Omega_Seamaster_Lume_Wristshot.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jxHa4G)
300m also need Helium escape valve?