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Title: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 01, 2013, 07:45:20 AM
Since there have been a number of posts abt a 2nd JLC gtg recently, I'm putting up another thread for a 2nd JLC gtg for 2013. Actually anyone can initiate any themed or general gtg.
If I'm to put it together however, I am only available on 9th or 16th November as I won't be in bolehland the other weekends.

As usual, a relatively secure venue will be chosen, one with a private room for a lunch gathering which can usually take abt 12 people.
If the response is higher than 12 then suggestions for a private room (hotel or multi-floored complex preferred) with higher capacity is welcomed.
As most of our members are family types, I've been told that dinner is usually not preferred although I'm ok with either.
So a lunch gtg it will be from 12 noon-3 pm although it is normal for such gtg to drag on to 4-5 hrs.
Venue will only be informed to confirmed paid participants a few days before the event.
Menu chosen is usually below RM 100.

The 1st 2013 JLC Gtg was held in March where 8 MWF members turned up. Some JLC owners brought several of their pieces. You can refer to the thread under GTGs, MeetUps & Events for the pictures.

Suggest that those interested in this gtg to put their names under their date of choice as follows and to indicate if owner (O)  or enthusiast (E).
This is so that we don't end up with a gtg where only 2 owners show up with only 2-3 watches and the rest are enthusiasts, so we'll need to re-organise.
You may put your name under both dates if you have no preference.


9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2
3

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2
3
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: el118 on October 01, 2013, 09:19:08 AM

9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2
3

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: mykita on October 01, 2013, 06:10:16 PM
Can we have beer this time? :Cheers:

9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2
3

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)

-MK
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: llcj on October 01, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
Can we have beer this time? :Cheers:

9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 llcj (O)
3

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)

-MK

Yay Beer!
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 01, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
I love beer as much as the next person. German or Japanese beer ....even better.

Can anyone here suggest a private room within a restaurant in a multi-storied building or hotel where beer is served ?

In case we have muslim members who wish to join d gtg, we should have an alternative choice of a pork free place, in case. (altho beer can still be served)
Suggestions for a few alternative venues are needed.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sean on October 01, 2013, 07:21:01 PM
Can I join?
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 01, 2013, 07:26:09 PM
aiyooo sean,
was wondering y u didn't join in since u r looking for an alarm watch...where JLC is king... :Cheers:

of coz u can.. u need to ask meh? unless my post is not clear.
anyone with an interest in JLC can join, just that we want to make sure there are also enough JLC owners, otherwise no JLC watches to see at a JLC gtg.. :laugh:

you can also suggest places with a private room n beer (with pork or pork free)


Can I join?
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: mykita on October 01, 2013, 07:29:14 PM
I love beer as much as the next person. German or Japanese beer ....even better.

Can anyone here suggest a private room within a restaurant in a multi-storied building or hotel where beer is served ?

In case we have muslim members who wish to join d gtg, we should have an alternative choice of a pork free place, in case. (altho beer can still be served)
Suggestions for a few alternative venues are needed.


Can't think of a place but will PM you if I do. I have been out of touch with a lot of things as have been a hermit for the past few months. Look forward to meeting you J. Always had fun at these GTGs.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sean on October 01, 2013, 07:34:06 PM
Haha ok ok I'm on.

9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 llcj (O)
3 Sean (E)

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: FongV on October 01, 2013, 11:15:01 PM
I have no idea yet if I am around during that time. I will keep dates in mind.

Regards,
Fong
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: darrencw on October 02, 2013, 01:13:20 AM
9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 llcj (O)
3 Sean (E)
4 takashi78 (E)
5 darrencw (E)

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)

Hope to meet some new friends.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: Godzillaz on October 02, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 llcj (O)
3 Sean (E)
4 takashi78 (E)
5 darrencw (E)

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (E)
9 Chris Yen
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 03, 2013, 09:08:16 AM
Tyler & Peter, shouldn't you be owners or have you sold off your JLC(s)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: takashi78 on October 03, 2013, 09:18:17 AM
Sold mine. Have none now.
But any excuse to see and learn i am always game.
I enjoyed very much the last GTG.

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: euclidorus on October 03, 2013, 09:49:05 AM
16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (E)
9 Chris Yen
10 euclidorus (E)

Perhaps end the gtg with a visit to the JLC boutique as I wish to feel and touch the Master Compressor Extreme Lab.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: Godzillaz on October 03, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
I thought E = elementary  ;D

Tyler & Peter, shouldn't you be owners or have you sold off your JLC(s)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 03, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
Even if you thought its elementary (E), you still used the wrong grade  :HammerHead:.. you're in the (O) over-advance class... :Mad:
You had more JLCs than anyone else at the last gtg..

I thought E = elementary  ;D

Tyler & Peter, shouldn't you be owners or have you sold off your JLC(s)

We always visit the JLC boutique after a JLC gtg.. :Dancing_banana: :Cheers:

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (E)
9 Chris Yen
10 euclidorus (E)

Perhaps end the gtg with a visit to the JLC boutique as I wish to feel and touch the Master Compressor Extreme Lab.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: chrisyen on October 03, 2013, 07:40:04 PM
No jlc ini collection as well
Just want to know and learn more bout jlc
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sm on October 08, 2013, 10:22:25 PM
Me too.
The last gtg organised by josh was great.
Was it Sean w the 1931?, pls bring along.

Sm

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 09, 2013, 07:22:03 AM
hi sm,
We'd love to have you.
1931 was either Fong's or Derek's....correct me if I'm wrong

Me too.
The last gtg organised by josh was great.
Was it Sean w the 1931?, pls bring along.

Sm
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 10, 2013, 02:08:41 PM
I'm still hoping we have more JLC owners to join in
There are 5 (O) only so far so we may end up with maybe between 8-12 pieces at most unless Tyler brings his magic toy box of oldies and goodies...

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: @tsw@ on October 14, 2013, 12:29:14 PM
16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (E)
9 Chris Yen
10 euclidorus (E)
11 @tsw@ (E)


If allowed, I'll like to join. Wish to know more on  ownership experience of jlc.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: dennis.T on October 16, 2013, 07:49:59 PM
16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (E)
9 Chris Yen
10 euclidorus (E)
11 @tsw@ (E)
12 Dennis (E)

I'll like to join if I able to make it. Wish to learn more abt the jlc
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 17, 2013, 07:46:17 AM
9th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 llcj (O)
3 Sean (E)
4 takashi78 (E)
5 darrencw (E)

16th Nov
1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 MYKITA (O)
4 llcj (O)
5 Sean (E)
6 takashi78 (E)
7 darrencw (E)
8 Godzillaz (O)
9 Chris Yen (E)
10 euclidorus (E)
11 @tsw@ (E)
12 Dennis (E)


sm..which date do you prefer ?
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sm on October 18, 2013, 06:49:06 PM
Joseph
Nov 16 is fine. Except that I hate BB traffic at noon sat.
I do not ve a JLC too.

Sm
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: el118 on October 23, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
My brand new JLC Master Calendar was found running faster by 7 sec a day. i have sent in to the boutique last week and they called up today that local service team was not confident to deal with it and have to send to Singapore service centre. need at least 2-3 weeks. may not be back in time for the GTG :Mad:

Paid premium price for premium branded watch and get this. ( I could have waited for AD rather than boutique which can have extra up to 5 % off)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: dpkong on October 23, 2013, 05:38:12 PM
My brand new JLC Master Calendar was found running faster by 7 sec a day. i have sent in to the boutique last week and they called up today that local service team was not confident to deal with it and have to send to Singapore service centre. need at least 2-3 weeks. may not be back in time for the GTG :Mad:

Paid premium price for premium branded watch and get this. ( I could have waited for AD rather than boutique which can have extra up to 5 % off)

Over how many days?

Best to run it in a while before sending it off to the service center.

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: el118 on October 23, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
My brand new JLC Master Calendar was found running faster by 7 sec a day. i have sent in to the boutique last week and they called up today that local service team was not confident to deal with it and have to send to Singapore service centre. need at least 2-3 weeks. may not be back in time for the GTG :Mad:

Paid premium price for premium branded watch and get this. ( I could have waited for AD rather than boutique which can have extra up to 5 % off)



Over how many days?

Best to run it in a while before sending it off to the service center.

More than two weeks with no sign of improvement. Local team tested confirm out of range thus need to send to Singapore.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: dpkong on October 23, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
Two weeks is not much wrist time to let it run in.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 23, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
Totally agree with dpkong.

Its not unusual to let the watch run in for several weeks (4-6)  before you send in for calibration.
Usually when new the watch will run faster and after several weeks it will slow down and stabilise thereafter due to the lubrication being evenly spread and gears run in.

You shld take it back and wear it for a few weeks and observe first.
I have no experience with servicing by Singapore
If it goes back to MJLC in le Sentier, good luck to you... It will take between 3-5 months.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sm on October 23, 2013, 08:29:59 PM
I have heard that service by Jlc is slow. Some months back a friend of mine ordered a strap and had to wait some weeks before its landed at the boutique.

Another friend of mine brought her cartier to change the battery (quartz) so as not to breach the warranty. It was sent down to our good neighbour and she also waited some weeks before it came  back fitted. She missed wearing it for a function.
(Thought it is out of the context)

Somehow when we buy BNIB authorised, we'd like the services of AD or boutique. If the service centre is not manned by qualified technician, it will have to be shipped out.

As if we are getting from parallel importers.

Sm
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on October 30, 2013, 08:01:00 AM
Update on JLC GTG II-
Date: Nov 16th Saturday
Time: Lunch 11.30am till 3pm
Visiting JLC Boutique Starhill after 3pm

Location: Private Room in restaurant
(location around Jln Bkt Bintang area, to be advised only to confirmed participants)
Menu: < RM 100 per person

Note: Confirmed attendees are to pm me your respective handphone numbers so that I can notify you of the details.

As majority have indicated 16th Nov as their choice, the date is now fixed.
We now have 15 attendees whereas the private room identified can only take 12 pax. However I think we can just barely squeeze everyone in.

As such the registration for the gtg is now closed.

In order to re-assure those owners attending, a room with some form of privacy and security needs to be arranged and usually these rooms are not able to cater more than 10-12 pax.

I need to make the necessary arrangements by end of this week.
All participants will only be informed of the details a day before the event by pm/sms/WhatsApp. Location will be within walking distance of Jalan Bukit Bintang area.

Thank you.

1 JOS2012 (O)
2 EL118 (O)
3 Sean (E)
4 darrencw (E)
5 Godzillaz (O)
6 Chris Yen (E)
7 euclidorus (E)
8 @tsw@ (E)
9 sm (E)
10 danny (O)
11 technicv +1 (O)
13 gigi (E)
14 kiamat (E)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on November 16, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
As usual a great gathering of like-minded JLC enthusiasts..
We had 5 owners and 8 enthusiasts, 15 JLCs of various models…..
Fortunately we had enough varieties of JLC to ogle over….

A quick post up of shots and people before I go for dinner..

The watch group shot
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8603.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8603.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8599.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8599.jpg.html)

The individual watch shots..

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8564.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8564.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8566.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8566.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8570.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8570.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8568.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8568.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8572.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8572.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8574.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8574.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8576.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8576.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8578.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8578.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8580.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8580.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8582.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8582.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8584.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8584.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8586.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8586.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8588.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8588.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8590.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8590.jpg.html)

some people shots……..

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8592.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8592.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8607.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8607.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8604.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8604.jpg.html)

Fong trying to figure out how to connect the i-phone (remote trigger) to the watch (timer) + C4 explosives on the JLC see through case back ala Al-Qaeda improvised bomb…

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8555.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8555.jpg.html)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8560.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/JoeyJLC/media/_DSF8560.jpg.html)
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: sean on November 16, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
Looks like you guys having a lot fun :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: dpkong on November 16, 2013, 07:24:33 PM
Joseph,

Your Swatch-like JLC sticks out like a sore thumb in the group shot!

It takes some time but now I really appreciate why you jumped on it. It's a beauty indeed. Growing to like the JLC NS alarm and also that nice Memovox with 3 crowns.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on November 16, 2013, 08:13:37 PM
Donald,
Rgding the Amvox 2…..it's all in the finishing…the beautifully brushed black titanium (very rare for titanium to be in black), the one-of-a-kind patented chrono triggering mechanism and the 3 dimensional dial which is only seen in the metal at various angles.

I really like it that it looks like a Swatch so that it doesn't attract attention from the wrong people. A WIS will know what it is, though.

ermmmm …. the Memovox with the 3 crowns that you refer to ( is it the last picture?) is none other than the JLC Memovox 'Polaris' re-issue Limited Edition (768 pieces).
You have very good taste and instinct.

The original Polaris was issued in only 1714 pieces between 1965-1970 and is a highly sought after vintage commanding very high prices by WIS worldwide.
Even the Tribute re-issue is extremely hard to come by..a pre-owned is selling for almost the original price when it was launched in 2008 (close to RM50K nett)
Not sure if its marketing talk but in 2008 the JLC boutique manager told me she was only given 2 pieces and they sold out real fast.

you can read more abt it here..

http://en.worldtempus.com/watches/jaeger-lecoultre/memovox-memovox-tribute-polaris-q-2008470

If you are referring to the other Memovox (the 7th from the top individual picture), you'll have to ask Tyler.

Hint: I might be letting my NS Diving Alarm go, if I can confirm a piece that was offered to me... :Praying:

Joseph,
Your Swatch-like JLC sticks out like a sore thumb in the group shot!
It takes some time but now I really appreciate why you jumped on it. It's a beauty indeed. Growing to like the JLC NS alarm and also that nice Memovox with 3 crowns.

hi Sean,
yes, we had a great time.. as usual the gtg dragged on from 11.30 to 5pm ending at JLC boutique.
Once you're free you can always call us for an informal yam char..no need to wait for a gtg...

Looks like you guys having a lot fun :thumbsup:
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: dpkong on November 16, 2013, 09:44:41 PM
Joseph,

Yes, the last one "Polaris" is the one that caught my eye. Didn't know what it is but it is nice indeed.

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8590.jpg)


And this one is a close second, if only the markers were larger..

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/JoeyJLC/_DSF8576.jpg)


If only JLC could have put the alarm marker of the NS Diving Alarm on a ring so that the text does not rotate around with the marker...
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: danny on November 18, 2013, 10:00:11 AM
Had a great time catching up with all the members at the GTG.
Thanks to Joseph organizing the event and for the great choice of restaurant.
And his pictorial reports are impeccable as always.

 :Cheers:
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: el118 on November 18, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
Glad to know the group of enthusiasts, looking forward to more GTG.
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: JOS2012 on November 20, 2013, 04:49:57 PM
Hi Eric,
Glad you enjoyed your very first JLC GTG..
Plse initiate gtg from here on, as and when you feel like getting together on any specific brand or in general..


Glad to know the group of enthusiasts, looking forward to more GTG.


Thanks Danny but impeccable my reports are not..:)
This gtg also brought me the apple of my eye for JLC alarms from a great MWF member & collector, who kindly assisted..
I will always remember this GTG for that….

Had a great time catching up with all the members at the GTG.
Thanks to Joseph organizing the event and for the great choice of restaurant.
And his pictorial reports are impeccable as always.

 :Cheers:

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: el118 on November 20, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
Hi Eric,
Glad you enjoyed your very first JLC GTG..
Plse initiate gtg from here on, as and when you feel like getting together on any specific brand or in general..


Glad to know the group of enthusiasts, looking forward to more GTG.
Ha ha, Joseph u r the designated official Gtg organizer for Mwf, keep up the good work!

Thanks Danny but impeccable my reports are not..:)
This gtg also brought me the apple of my eye for JLC alarms from a great MWF member & collector, who kindly assisted..
I will always remember this GTG for that….

Had a great time catching up with all the members at the GTG.
Thanks to Joseph organizing the event and for the great choice of restaurant.
And his pictorial reports are impeccable as always.

 :Cheers:

Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: donz on November 22, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
Daymn...i was late..didnt know there are quite a big watch community here! ..let me know for the next one guys!
Title: Re: JLC GTG II - Nov 2013
Post by: chrisyen on November 22, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
Daymn...i was late..didnt know there are quite a big watch community here! ..let me know for the next one guys!

Nvr too late

Our biggest annual GTG is coming soon...