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RE: Taxes
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:33:43 PM »
Need some advice from those who have recently shipped in watches from japan.

Have you been taxed and by how much ?

Thinking of buying something from Seiya.

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2019, 02:23:11 PM »
Definitely get taxed. Seiya declares actual value on the manifest. Custom will charge SST on the amount + SST on the postal value + admin charges.


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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2019, 06:05:49 PM »
Thanks. Sorry to sound like I’ve been living under a rock but how much will be the percentage tax for watches ?


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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2019, 11:33:56 AM »
i got lucky and wasnt taxed. if you do get taxed however it's 5% of the declared value, iirc also including shipping costs.
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2019, 11:37:34 AM »
i got lucky and wasnt taxed. if you do get taxed however it's 5% of the declared value, iirc also including shipping costs.
Thanks! Very useful info. Was your shipment from Japan as well? And how long ago was it ? I’ve noticed lately that customs are starting to be more strict.....


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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2019, 11:42:00 AM »
i got lucky and wasnt taxed. if you do get taxed however it's 5% of the declared value, iirc also including shipping costs.
Thanks! Very useful info. Was your shipment from Japan as well? And how long ago was it ? I’ve noticed lately that customs are starting to be more strict.....


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it was from SG (gnomon) around 2 months ago. i've got a shipment coming from seiya as well so we'll see if i get taxed this time or not :P
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2019, 11:49:03 AM »
Yes please update is your seiya shipment gets thru!


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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2019, 03:51:40 PM »
i got lucky and wasnt taxed. if you do get taxed however it's 5% of the declared value, iirc also including shipping costs.
Thanks! Very useful info. Was your shipment from Japan as well? And how long ago was it ? I’ve noticed lately that customs are starting to be more strict.....


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Shipment from Gnomon usually dont' get taxed as they don't put the correct value on the manifest. Advantage: customs will not bother to check when the 'value' is small. Disadvantage: if the package is loss, liability by the courier's insurer is only based on the amount listed

Accept this arrangement at your own risk

it was from SG (gnomon) around 2 months ago. i've got a shipment coming from seiya as well so we'll see if i get taxed this time or not :P
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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2019, 05:38:08 PM »
Apologize if this is off topic but i don't think it warrants a separate thread. I read on Seiya's site that they ship via EMS or DHL. Which do the the sifus here use? Also, when stopped at customs for tax payment, did you have to go to the customs office when using EMS? (For DHL they will handle the payment for you).

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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 11:47:31 AM »
Apologize if this is off topic but i don't think it warrants a separate thread. I read on Seiya's site that they ship via EMS or DHL. Which do the the sifus here use? Also, when stopped at customs for tax payment, did you have to go to the customs office when using EMS? (For DHL they will handle the payment for you).

from experiences on other purchase, if EMS = will be delivered via our poslaju, if your items get held by customs, you can either ask poslaju to pay for you first and then you pay them later, there is a service fee, or you can go to customs office and pay yourself (also can nego abit or justify why you shouldnt be taxed if you want, but most likely will fail). for DHL, they'd usually pay first and you pay later. there is also a service fee.

I'd personally pick DHL cause i want it to arrive fast :P
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 11:52:35 AM »
Shipment from Gnomon usually dont' get taxed as they don't put the correct value on the manifest. Advantage: customs will not bother to check when the 'value' is small. Disadvantage: if the package is loss, liability by the courier's insurer is only based on the amount listed

Accept this arrangement at your own risk

oh wow i didnt realize this when my package arrived, i just assume they don't underdeclare even when requested
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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2019, 06:56:26 AM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2019, 06:58:50 AM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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If you don’t mind me asking was the watch value high above a few thousand ?


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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 05:11:04 PM »
Yes please update is your seiya shipment gets thru!


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did not get taxed for the 2nd time. my luck is running out, i can feel it :D
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2019, 06:35:05 AM »
Yes please update is your seiya shipment gets thru!


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did not get taxed for the 2nd time. my luck is running out, i can feel it :D
Did you use EMS or DHL?


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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2019, 07:08:25 AM »
Did you use EMS or DHL?
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this time i used EMS since no extra cost  :D
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 07:21:38 AM »
Did you use EMS or DHL?
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this time i used EMS since no extra cost  :D
Ok I think that’s why it went thru. EMS passes the package to Poslaju I think and that may be how it slipped thru. I decided to ship via DHL for peace of mind but will likely get taxed. Will update when I get it.


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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 07:43:04 AM »
Did you use EMS or DHL?
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this time i used EMS since no extra cost  :D
Ok I think that’s why it went thru. EMS passes the package to Poslaju I think and that may be how it slipped thru. I decided to ship via DHL for peace of mind but will likely get taxed. Will update when I get it.


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tbh it's all luck, higher valued items will likely get noticed as well and taxed. i've had EMS that were taxed before just because the box was too big even though the prices arent over the limit, they think i under declare the price  :-\
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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 12:49:59 PM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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If you don’t mind me asking was the watch value high above a few thousand ?


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Yes, 5 digits figure...


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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2019, 08:24:10 AM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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If you don’t mind me asking was the watch value high above a few thousand ?


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Yes, 5 digits figure...


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Ok. Need to consider this method next time. DHL delivered my watch today. Super fast as I bought on Friday evening. Downside is that I got taxed.


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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2019, 12:53:00 PM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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If you don’t mind me asking was the watch value high above a few thousand ?


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Yes, 5 digits figure...


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Ok. Need to consider this method next time. DHL delivered my watch today. Super fast as I bought on Friday evening. Downside is that I got taxed.


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so what is the tax rate you have been charged? and the seller declare it as "Watch"?


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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2019, 09:46:39 PM »
I bought a Casio from SG... no taxes

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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2019, 07:25:31 AM »
I did’t get taxed (used Fedex as courier). The Japanese seller put the actual purchase value but declare as “Precision Equipment”, plus I deliver to my office.


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If you don’t mind me asking was the watch value high above a few thousand ?


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Yes, 5 digits figure...


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Ok. Need to consider this method next time. DHL delivered my watch today. Super fast as I bought on Friday evening. Downside is that I got taxed.


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so what is the tax rate you have been charged? and the seller declare it as "Watch"?


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Got taxed SST 5% no Duty. It was listed as watch on the invoice.


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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2019, 03:57:13 PM »
Bought another watch from japan and this time the seller only uses EMS. The watch is now held at customs and I’ve just received a letter from poslaju asking me if I want to nominate them as my agent to handle the taxes.  Need some advice from the forum sifus.....can poslaju be trusted to do this properly and if yes, how long would they take. OR should i go to the custom office myself. I don’t mind paying poslaju to handle it if they are able to do it right....concerned that they might just let customs tax me at a higher rate or worse...


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Re: RE: Taxes
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2019, 07:04:37 AM »
For an extra fee, you can collect it in KL. Otherwise you need to go to KLIA. I suspect the actual value was written on the manifest so the SST amount is standard. 


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