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Title: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 02, 2011, 10:17:40 PM
Dear All Forumers,

This has been a tough decision for me beside choosing watches  ;D

Anyone of u mind to share your experience if u own any of the above? What are the pros & cons, and notes worth taking as a owner? The CT200h is RM 10k more than the Golf TSI OTR. Note that it is a Hybrid thus exempted from Import & Excise duties. Thx All.

Alvin C.

(http://www.lexus.com.my/images/models/CT200h/colors_01.jpg)

(http://image1.paultan.org/image/DSC08688-860x460.jpg)







Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: peanut on September 02, 2011, 11:03:05 PM
These are two different cars.  You should choose one based on what your needs.  One is a hybrid car with very low power, good brand name/image and possibly slightly bigger space than the VW.  If you are one who want to save the environment and want something different, get the Lexus.  Knowing Lexus, I am sure the build quality will be good but prepare to pay for the long term service cost as there will be no one who can service this car except Lexus itself.

The VW is a much more fun car with almost 160 HP twin turbo engine.  It is the next best thing to GTI.  The DSG gear box is fantastic.  With a little tuning, it can even whack a 325i.  The issuer for VW is there are too many Golf out there.  I would prefer the Scirocco.  In term of driving fun, there is no comparison.  It is a driver's car. 

If you want a boring car, good for environment and have your friend think that are are richer than you actually are, get the Lexus.  If you enjoy driving, a fantastic gear box and can chase down a BMW or MB, get the Golf.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Sid Vicious on September 03, 2011, 03:09:57 AM
Peanut is correct

I tried both. The Lexus was under powered to me. It uses the same engine as the the prius. So me and the missus concluded same car but with a much better interior. Also there are 2 specs for the Lexus, the lower one is rather low as compared to the higher spec.

Now the Golf is another story :) In fact as mentioned they are 2 different cars and even the sales person didn't want to compare as they are 2 different cars. More power, fun to drive, responsive and sexy! Not that small to me and built was good. Interior was nice as well.

You can guess which we chose :)
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 03, 2011, 07:04:24 AM
I will go with Lexus, pleasure driving and I just love the Dashboard...and environment friendly... :Dancing_banana:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: hanz079 on September 03, 2011, 07:14:41 AM
Golf. Nuff said.  ;D
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: jacky8888 on September 03, 2011, 07:38:45 AM
Golf... with no doubt... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: peanut on September 03, 2011, 10:54:37 AM
I will go with Lexus, pleasure driving and I just love the Dashboard...and environment friendly... :Dancing_banana:
To me, an underpowered car cannot be a driving pleasure. However, I can understand someone else may derive a lot of pleasure driving a comfortable car lumbering around in it's anemic power.  Driving pleasure is about how a car handles from the superb transmission, suspension and power plant. 
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 03, 2011, 11:36:05 PM
Thx all for the precious opinions.

I do agree Golf is a better driver's car whereas CT200h is perhaps more comfortable & luxury. Seriously, if not because of the duty exemption of around RM30k-40k, choosing the Golf would be no brainer.

Still tough choice though... ???
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: peanut on September 04, 2011, 08:10:48 PM
IMHO You should compare the actual selling price and the fact that Lexus has RM30-40k exemption tax should be irrelevant in your decision.  Since they are in the same price range, you should evaluate them using your criteria but not factoring how much you "save" on the exemption tax or the original Lexus price should be higher.

Like most people said, these are apple and orange.  The fact that you are considering them together makes me wonder if you are clear about your needs.  This is like I will never consider a 7 series versus a Nissan GTR!  ;D

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 05, 2011, 08:13:09 AM
I will go with Lexus, pleasure driving and I just love the Dashboard...and environment friendly... :Dancing_banana:
To me, an underpowered car cannot be a driving pleasure. However, I can understand someone else may derive a lot of pleasure driving a comfortable car lumbering around in it's anemic power.  Driving pleasure is about how a car handles from the superb transmission, suspension and power plant. 

Everybody have different perspective on certain things, Yes, you may view Driving pleasure as to certain aspect. However, I view differently for the term "Driving Pleasure". If I were 20 years old younger, I would have go with Golf.  ;D

Just my 18 cents....
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: peanut on September 05, 2011, 08:40:11 AM
That's why I said "to me".  I would still go with the Golf even when I were 60 years old.   ;D
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Peiseh on September 05, 2011, 05:02:02 PM
If you have not made up your mind yet, perhaps the VW show happening this weekend may of interest to you.

Its at Bkt.Jalil and VW said it promises the best of motoring can give....
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 06, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
I am going to see the VW show at Bukit Jalil, just to see whether can change my perception toward this car? Anyone going?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 06, 2011, 03:51:26 PM
U mean those model? I am there to see them too... :Laughing_on_floor: :Laughing_on_floor:

hmmm, which watch should I wear....wonder...
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: takashi78 on September 06, 2011, 04:30:11 PM
This saturday?
Would see if got time to go maybe can meet up.
Whats at the show anyways?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: patek8888 on September 06, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
I vote for Golf TSI. Any how it is still an European brand. Lexus is just a Kamikaze trying to be European class..... Still a Toyota anyway.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 06, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
Hi All,

I will be there for sure, it is just 3 minutes drive from my house.  ;D

We should meet there with our watches, but what to wear, like what Siodee asked? Most of my watches are for diver or flyer. How come I don't even have a racer watch?  ???
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 07, 2011, 07:31:58 AM
I can't go on Sat, I will go on Sunday, if any of you go on Sunday, let me know....I am there to take photo, of course spot some leng lui to cuci mata  :Laughing_on_floor:

As for the watch, still thinking which to wear, I don't have racer watch in my collection  :Confused:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Omnipotent on September 07, 2011, 07:42:03 AM
I am going to see the VW show at Bukit Jalil, just to see whether can change my perception toward this car? Anyone going?

me! see you there :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Sid Vicious on September 07, 2011, 09:32:20 AM
Siodee: I thought you married with kid still out there looking at the market?  :Laughing_on_floor:

Have fun guys and pics please for this friend so far away  :Blue:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 07, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
Sid, my bad, you are right, married with kids should not behave like that. But my camera need the chic attention, since I carry it, so I have no choice but to follow  ;D

So far on Sunday

1) Siodee
2) Omnipotent

siapa lagi???
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Sid Vicious on September 07, 2011, 10:08:24 AM
Bro then if anyone i.e. wifey ask..."what are ALL these photos?!!!" you say for your friend far away in earthquake land...need some pics to see on his computer :)

Back to the thread...just get the Golf  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: ivanswk on September 07, 2011, 12:27:49 PM
is the Golf  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: zuki on September 07, 2011, 12:34:59 PM
These are two different cars.  You should choose one based on what your needs.  One is a hybrid car with very low power, good brand name/image and possibly slightly bigger space than the VW.  If you are one who want to save the environment and want something different, get the Lexus.  Knowing Lexus, I am sure the build quality will be good but prepare to pay for the long term service cost as there will be no one who can service this car except Lexus itself.

The VW is a much more fun car with almost 160 HP twin turbo engine.  It is the next best thing to GTI.  The DSG gear box is fantastic.  With a little tuning, it can even whack a 325i.  The issuer for VW is there are too many Golf out there.  I would prefer the Scirocco.  In term of driving fun, there is no comparison.  It is a driver's car. 

If you want a boring car, good for environment and have your friend think that are are richer than you actually are, get the Lexus.  If you enjoy driving, a fantastic gear box and can chase down a BMW or MB, get the Golf.
Agree...so get the german...
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Omnipotent on September 07, 2011, 12:42:29 PM
Sid, my bad, you are right, married with kids should not behave like that. But my camera need the chic attention, since I carry it, so I have no choice but to follow  ;D

So far on Sunday

1) Siodee
2) Omnipotent

siapa lagi???

ack...sorry la siodee...i tot you meant saturday. :D

So it should be like this....

Saturday:-
1) Omnipotent

Sunday:-
1) Siodee
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 07, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
Sid, my bad, you are right, married with kids should not behave like that. But my camera need the chic attention, since I carry it, so I have no choice but to follow  ;D

So far on Sunday

1) Siodee
2) Omnipotent

siapa lagi???

ack...sorry la siodee...i tot you meant saturday. :D

So it should be like this....

Saturday:-
1) Omnipotent
2) Alvin C.

Sunday:-
1) Siodee
2) Alvin C.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 07, 2011, 03:02:10 PM
Hmmm, seem like we have 2 different sessions for the same event, Das auto show

Alvin really give face, attend 2 different days  :thumbsup:

I will create this Das Auto GTG at the GTG session, btw, I know what to wear for this German auto show, "Das Watch"
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Hoegaarden on September 09, 2011, 08:18:07 AM
I choose golf because VW give 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage.  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: jagjag on September 09, 2011, 12:21:55 PM
Straight forward -
Family man - Lexus, give u comfort and spacious enuf and environmental friendly..
Single or normally travel alone - Golf, more power, good handling, more cool etc..
For me - I'm a family man + environmental friendly ( = GOOD MAN ) lol..so it's Lexus
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: meoramri on September 09, 2011, 02:33:31 PM
Lexus for me - as it states my view about the protection of the enviroment. However, my financial training dictates that i should go for the VW. The cost of the Lexus has been inflated by the technology used. Taking into consideration depreciation etc, VW wins. :Confused:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alexl on September 10, 2011, 12:02:32 PM
Golf tsi would no doubt be more fun to drive. Ct200h however would be more of a novelty as there's not many on the road. Why not you consider getting both?  :Laughing_on_floor:

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 13, 2011, 11:13:38 AM
So Alvin, you decided already? after the VW show?

P/S : I still go with Lexus to save the Earth
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 15, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
Yes, I have booked the CT200h but it will only arrived by Nov'11.

My reason :
- The look strikes me at 1st sight. Golf looks too simple for me though it has been my dream car.
- Lexus looks more "business" than Golf, I'm a sales personnel, it suits my job.
- I'm driving an old 325i (E36), though a fun car but too much maintenance for our weather. I strongly believe Japanese cars are more reliable in tropical weather.

However, if there is a better choice, say, new Camry launched earlier than expected, delay in delivery or cancellation of duty exemption etc., I might cancel the order & loose RM 1k deposit (refund 90%).

I suspect with the intro of Proton Hybrid today, Govt might protect local hybrid & impose duty again on imported Hybrid.

Anyway, the time will tell if my decision was right...
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: gapper on September 16, 2011, 04:00:06 PM
look and distinction --> Lexus wins all hand down!

recently... too many golfs (be it mark 5/6 or tsi) on the road in klang valley....

congras. on ur new car! i want the is250 too!
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Sid Vicious on September 17, 2011, 04:00:33 AM
Congrats Alvin

We got the Golf as you would imagine although I have never driven it  :Laughing_on_floor:, the missus says that it rocks and being in sales too, she gets from A to B rather fast (although, I try not to hear that bit  :Confused:)

Good luck with the wait and tell us how it goes...I did try the Lexus too but we decided on the Golf...very posh and plush interiors Lexus  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on September 17, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
Thx Gapper & Sid.

IS250 is cool too according to my friend. It shares many Toyota parts in the engine bay, which is good. The key differences are better materials, design, refinement & built it has over Toyota interior & exterior.

No doubt Germany cars are great, but after owing my 325i for 10 years, I have started to appreciate Japanese reliability long ago. The high temperature & pressure (hence better performance) applied on Germany engines is the killer in tropical weather.   

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: peanut on September 18, 2011, 08:58:03 AM
I have been owning bimmers as long as I can remember.  May be it was true donkeys years ago but it is not true now or even 10 years ago.  I don't buy the German cars not suitable for tropical weather nonsense.  Nowadays all the cars are manufactured for global market.  The difference is German cars may be more performance oriented than Japanese cars at the same price point.  I can tell you that the GTR and Evo are also not cheap to maintain!

Lexus is known for reliability and well engineered.  But unless you go for the high end Lexus, the driving experience is still not the same as bimmers.

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on September 23, 2011, 11:09:24 AM
Thx Gapper & Sid.

IS250 is cool too according to my friend. It shares many Toyota parts in the engine bay, which is good. The key differences are better materials, design, refinement & built it has over Toyota interior & exterior.

No doubt Germany cars are great, but after owing my 325i for 10 years, I have started to appreciate Japanese reliability long ago. The high temperature & pressure (hence better performance) applied on Germany engines is the killer in tropical weather.   



Good choice  :thumbsup: finally down to Lexus, that also prove that you are family man, according to one of the MWF member here,  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Watchnewby on September 23, 2011, 12:30:07 PM
Congrats for making your mind on the Lexus.
It is environmental friendly too.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: kakashi... on October 06, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
Great, i vote for the ct200h over golf tsi anytime unless the big brother - GTI...

so u getting the ct200h normal or luxury?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on October 07, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Just the Standard version. Luxury version at 200k will confuse me more as there are even more choices for that much of money.  ;D

Consumers are spoilt for choices nowadays.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on October 10, 2011, 08:34:50 AM
Just the Standard version. Luxury version at 200k will confuse me more as there are even more choices for that much of money.  ;D

Consumers are spoilt for choices nowadays.

Yup, save the money for new watches, after all, members here are mostly WIS and not CM  ;D
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: GeekinE90 on October 12, 2011, 03:38:50 PM
Good choice.  Not paying the govt excise and import duties for cars is a rare privilege for Malaysians.  Use this benefit kau kau while you can.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: CYMAboy on November 23, 2011, 09:15:56 PM
Bro, these are 2 different segments of car. Hybrid vs non-hybrid, unless compare apple to apple isn't it. Just my 2 cents, ct200h looks gorgeous with better electronic technology. But if power, of Coz I'll say VW will likely to have better performance.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: duke916sps on December 09, 2011, 08:15:25 AM
Wife had a golf, utter unrealiable, switch to a volvo, same crap, finally took the lexus Ct 200, piece of mind .....
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Samajaya168 on December 10, 2011, 04:37:23 PM
congrates!  :thumbsup:

i almost bought this 1 myself but i cant let go the speed & power  :Cheers:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: azzamov on December 11, 2011, 03:26:32 PM
If not mistaken, the CT200H normal have less convenience features/gadgets as compare to tsi though...namely auto rain sensor, bi-xenon light, auto-flip side mirrors, etc...
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on December 11, 2011, 04:26:20 PM
u are right, I just taken my baby Lexus and find the lack of auto-flip side mirrors is really a pain, as the side mirrors are quite protruding. Whereas the rain sensor & xenon lights are not so important to me.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: ehfoo1976 on December 17, 2011, 09:12:40 PM
Will go for Lexus for it's Technology. Hybrid and style really impress me!
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: chrisyen on December 18, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
Any discount on lexus?

Golf tsi with great discount now...
The jetta is the one that shd b compare with this lexus
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on December 20, 2011, 05:11:19 PM
Discount on Lexus? Only in your dream ! ;D

I've been asking before taking delivery of my car, cos Prius is offering 5-year free maintenance. But zero offer on CT200h. I heard they delivered 500 units within last 3 months. Hybrid is getting popular now.

Nearly cancel order and went for Golf TSI due to RM16k discount. But that discount drop to only 10k. So, finally stick to CT200h.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: chrisyen on December 21, 2011, 08:19:42 AM
Discount on Lexus? Only in your dream ! ;D

I've been asking before taking delivery of my car, cos Prius is offering 5-year free maintenance. But zero offer on CT200h. I heard they delivered 500 units within last 3 months. Hybrid is getting popular now.

Nearly cancel order and went for Golf TSI due to RM16k discount. But that discount drop to only 10k. So, finally stick to CT200h.

tsi discount mo than rm10k bro....
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: silverstan on December 21, 2011, 08:41:27 AM
when i am planning to get a car for my wife this year for her birthday, CT200H also in the list.
But ended up bought a GTI for her.

Then curi curi moded her car to stage 2. So i can enjoy driving that car as well.  :Laughing_on_floor:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Scuderianer0 on December 21, 2011, 09:22:01 AM
when i am planning to get a car for my wife this year for her birthday, CT200H also in the list.
But ended up bought a GTI for her.

Then curi curi moded her car to stage 2. So i can enjoy driving that car as well.  :Laughing_on_floor:


haha good choice  ....
but didn't she notice the noise from the down pipe ?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: silverstan on December 21, 2011, 09:52:31 AM
when i am planning to get a car for my wife this year for her birthday, CT200H also in the list.
But ended up bought a GTI for her.

Then curi curi moded her car to stage 2. So i can enjoy driving that car as well.  :Laughing_on_floor:


haha good choice  ....
but didn't she notice the noise from the down pipe ?

i use 400 cell ceramic cat downpipe. barely noticeable during normal driving.
But she still found out cause the power is totally different from original.  ;D

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: chrisyen on December 21, 2011, 01:55:24 PM
when i am planning to get a car for my wife this year for her birthday, CT200H also in the list.
But ended up bought a GTI for her.

Then curi curi moded her car to stage 2. So i can enjoy driving that car as well.  :Laughing_on_floor:


haha good choice  ....
but didn't she notice the noise from the down pipe ?

i use 400 cell ceramic cat downpipe. barely noticeable during normal driving.
But she still found out cause the power is totally different from original.  ;D

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: silverstan on December 22, 2011, 08:49:40 AM
My wife is enjoying her new camera in her GTI  ;D
(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee226/tohstanley/Resized1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on December 22, 2011, 09:48:32 AM
Wife had a golf, utter unrealiable, switch to a volvo, same crap, finally took the lexus Ct 200, piece of mind .....

Duke, you are back, so where have you been hiding?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: duke916sps on December 23, 2011, 12:11:03 PM
Wife had a golf, utter unrealiable, switch to a volvo, same crap, finally took the lexus Ct 200, piece of mind .....

Duke, you are back, so where have you been hiding?

Exercising - Wife ordered to loose some weight, So I have been building bikes and riding. Just built a Lynskey Custom ... and sufferring on every ride..
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: siodee on December 27, 2011, 10:49:35 AM
Wife had a golf, utter unrealiable, switch to a volvo, same crap, finally took the lexus Ct 200, piece of mind .....

Duke, you are back, so where have you been hiding?

Exercising - Wife ordered to loose some weight, So I have been building bikes and riding. Just built a Lynskey Custom ... and sufferring on every ride..

That is all good, so no more new acquisition???
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: IWCking on March 22, 2012, 08:25:23 PM
I will go for golf cos i think lexus ct200h lacks of character. Just another more expensive boring toyota. sorry for my bluntness.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: ronnie2u on April 25, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
Definitely a VW Golf will be a better driving experience....compared to Lexus (aka expensive Toyota).
Just gotta love those German Technology
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: armereth on April 25, 2012, 02:54:17 PM
Hi

I have similar dilema. Was comparing CT200 vs Jetta vs Passat vs Mazda 6. Didnt even bother comparing with Golf TSI.

Ended up with CT200h..... due to its refinement and air of luxury. And also the entire buying experience. 

Just think of it this way.
CT200h = Rolex
Jetta/Passat = Laco/Steinhart
Mazda = Seiko (or grand Seiko if you wish)

Imagine all same price. So its easy pick for me.

No offence to VW owner yah.


Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: chrisyen on April 26, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
Hi

I have similar dilema. Was comparing CT200 vs Jetta vs Passat vs Mazda 6. Didnt even bother comparing with Golf TSI.

Ended up with CT200h..... due to its refinement and air of luxury. And also the entire buying experience. 

Just think of it this way.
CT200h = Rolex
Jetta/Passat = Laco/Steinhart
Mazda = Seiko (or grand Seiko if you wish)

Imagine all same price. So its easy pick for me.

No offence to VW owner yah.

CT200h = G Seiko with spring drive movement

Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on April 26, 2012, 10:43:32 AM
I too considered Golf TSI, Jetta & Passat before settling down with CT200h due to the technology (green) & luxury feel. But all these features cost money, so, the final factor is "tax free". Else, not easy too justify the saving of fuel. Am running at 5 liter/100 km (or less than 10 sens / km).

Klang Valley traffic jam every where, even at taman-taman now. Hybrid is the "best suited" cars for city life. The engine hardly starts, so will be less wear & tear. I strongly believe Hybrid cars are more reliable overall in city.

Can't accept the Golf TSI & Jetta come without leather seats & plain dashboard. CT200h wins hands down.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: armereth on April 26, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Hi Chrisyen

True true... G Seiko


Hi Alvin

Agree. My final reason is "I ain't want pay ridiculous taxes anymore" although everything is expensive. Just did my 10K service at Rm500! No free labour or anything. How about yours?

For those who consider GTi, do take a look at Mazda 3 MPS also. At Rm17+k, Japan CBU, 2.3l Turbo with 10 Bose Speaker audio, it really worth considering eventhough there are complains about torque steer.

Thanks
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on April 27, 2012, 10:11:16 AM
I have not done 10,000 km service yet but my friend did, RM500 too.

Having tax free car in Malaysia is like in a dream, when all cars are taxed minimum 30-40% including Proton made. Worse on imported brands : AP, Import Duty, Excise Duty, Sales Tax.  :Blue:

Just came back from Bangkok last month and found out that their Japanese cars are cheaper than Malaysia by 20 to 40%.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: ckcspice on April 28, 2012, 07:07:08 AM
read Top Gear's review in the April isue...CT200h vs VW Passat.... :)
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Alvin-8880 on May 05, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
I read it too but found the choice of "battle field" was not quite fair. Having CT200h vs Passat competing on PLUS highway will not favour any hybrid cars as they are designed for city traffic ie. stop-go scenario.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Laktos Kid on May 16, 2012, 07:55:09 PM
how about the new Honda CR-Z hybrid ??  ;D
i think is a fair comparison to the Lexus, but it is only a 2+2 seater which means rear seats are only for show  :Blue:
at 115k i think is a bargain to the not-so-exciting Prius + it's a manual !  ;)
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: takashi78 on May 16, 2012, 08:38:15 PM
80k difference you call it fair comparison?
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Laktos Kid on May 16, 2012, 11:39:12 PM
i'm just saying, hybrid to hybrid because i think CR-Z is an interesting car  ;D
ignore my comment if y'all think it's out of topic :HammerHead:
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Angryrodent on June 14, 2012, 06:34:24 AM
I like both Never driven the Lexus but my sis inlaw has one and gotten a ride a couple of times.. very comfy and if your taking a long drive its nice to know that it wont cost much... golfs are just plain fun to drive but one needs snow to really get the best out of them
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: fidoneo on June 14, 2012, 07:21:49 AM
Lexus Cars are made to perfection , Lexus sales  are at the top range in the states , If you own one,  comparing it with a German Car there is no doubt german technology is better ,  But then if you drive a lexus its all about the branding and also the taste you have. I personally love the lexus for comfort and style . if i want speed and performance  i will just take the BM or the Audi out for a spin comparing german and a japanese car. 

Just my 2 cents

Stan
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Watchnewby on June 14, 2012, 10:34:45 AM
Hi

I have similar dilema. Was comparing CT200 vs Jetta vs Passat vs Mazda 6. Didnt even bother comparing with Golf TSI.

Ended up with CT200h..... due to its refinement and air of luxury. And also the entire buying experience. 

Just think of it this way.
CT200h = Rolex
Jetta/Passat = Laco/Steinhart
Mazda = Seiko (or grand Seiko if you wish)

Imagine all same price. So its easy pick for me.

No offence to VW owner yah.

Congrats on your choice.

For me, if I were to choose performance, I will go for the Passat.
Even though it may be 1.8cc as compared with CT200 which is 2.0cc, but feel more powerful as it's engine is turbo-powered.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: takashi78 on June 14, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
CT200 is 1.8L only.

Exact same engine as Prius.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: armereth on July 11, 2012, 04:08:53 PM
And also, CT200h is nimble (as in all hybrid i guess) due to the electric motor being the first power source, the torque is instantneous. However, it run out of stim rather quick but then I did hit 180km/h once in while. All in, it is fun to drive especially when I sneak up to pedestrain who dont hear me coming :-)
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Meor72 on August 15, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
I' d got for the Golf. The back seat of the lexus is awfully cramp in leg space plus the boot is too small. The Golf with the Tsi engine is super smooth and light on the pedal.
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: eddyjnv on November 22, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
Latest offer RM8000 discount for non luxury, tempting! :D
Title: Re: Lexus CT200h or Golf TSI ?
Post by: Bestwatch on May 30, 2013, 03:14:21 PM
For me, I will go for CT200.. Because of space of car & also better fuel consumption.