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"Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« on: April 19, 2012, 08:35:18 AM »
Some non WIS looks at your watch "collection" and say that you're not collecting, just accumulating.
What are your thoughts on the statement, and how the hell do you differentiate "collecting" and "accumulating"  ???
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2012, 10:04:24 AM »
to me i think collecting means you collect what you want and sell those you dont want...
accumulating means you will collect what you want... and dont want as well...... ;D
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2012, 10:33:24 AM »
Interesting.. I have never classified myself as collector as I am merely acumulating the watches.. To me a 'real' collector shd have tourbillon, perpetual and other grande complication. ;D

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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2012, 10:47:16 AM »
Hey bro from accumulating you become a collector....to me a collector collects what he desires, not specific grand movements. It is more of means and what you can afford. Just my 2 pence worth of thoughts though.  :Laughing_on_floor:

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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 11:41:05 AM »
I think the best way to describe a collection is that you have a set direction in which you want your collection to head to. A collection has a completion. An accumulation is a random set without any direction. An accumulation is forever ongoing. Thats how i view it.
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 11:45:10 AM »
I think the best way to describe a collection is that you have a set direction in which you want your collection to head to. A collection has a completion. An accumulation is a random set without any direction. An accumulation is forever ongoing. Thats how i view it.

"A collection has a completion..." sounds legit, but we all know the truth to that statement...  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2012, 11:48:20 AM »
Collection can be completed "for the time being". :Laughing_on_floor: But it can definitely be completed or upgraded or changed but do we know if we will add on more? Not without foresight. Maybe the best definition is that there is a direction to head to.
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2012, 12:04:43 PM »
So,

Buying without direction = accumulating.
Buying with a set direction = collecting.
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 12:19:20 PM »
Accumulate is like emphasizing on size of collection maybe (quantity)?
Collecting is emphasizing on value of collection (quality)...

Collecting or accumulating, most important is to be happy with whatever piece we have...
in MAlaysia, we call it siok sendiri.... ;D 
Some siok sendiri looking at a big, fully filled watch box...
some siok sendiri with just 1 or 2 rare pieces...

« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 12:29:30 PM by pexus »
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 12:32:27 PM »
My collection used to be accumulating... Not including few of seiko watch... Now trying to get rid of it to get hold some other watch  :HammerHead:

What i learnt from this is to get the watch you will keep it with you for rest of the life. Flipping will cause you to lose up in $ in long run  :Mad:
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 12:34:07 PM by Gigi »

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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2012, 12:49:24 PM »
to me i think collecting means you collect what you want and sell those you dont want...
accumulating means you will collect what you want... and dont want as well...... ;D

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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2012, 12:58:26 PM »
Im def an accumulator... if I have the money and want a watch I buy.. and I never sell. But im alsoa collector cause I have watches that I know i wont be happy unless i have them. But still would never sell one of my babies to get a new one once you're an Andersson it's for life... well atleast my life bet my watches will live longer than me hehe
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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2012, 01:03:06 PM »
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So,

Buying without direction = accumulating.
Buying with a set direction = collecting
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Agree! my 2012 resolution is to turn from an accumulator to a collector  :)



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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2012, 01:59:17 PM »
So,

Buying without direction = accumulating.
Buying with a set direction = collecting.
Thats exactly what i mean.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 09:43:15 PM »
According to my wife

Accumulating's focus is on QUANTITY (piling up)
Collecting's focus is on what FANCY US (could be anything)

For me I'll will just say to the non WIS "yeah, yeah, yeah ... " and walk away.  :laugh:

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Some non WIS looks at your watch "collection" and say that you're not collecting, just accumulating.
What are your thoughts on the statement, and how the hell do you differentiate "collecting" and "accumulating"  ???
« Last Edit: April 20, 2012, 05:44:51 AM by Godzillaz »

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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 02:38:29 AM »
well i bought a horrible looking watch just because.. well it was so uggly so i want it! and never bought one i didnt want in some way (sometime to cope till i have enough to buy what i really want) so maybe im a collector?
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2012, 10:45:54 AM »
So,

Buying without direction = accumulating.
Buying with a set direction = collecting.

Good definition. Personally I am a collector.
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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 09:26:37 PM »
I leaned the lesson the hard way... Better off save the $ for something you really after than spending it on something that is a "subustitute" it. You may like it/love it at first sight but it is not the "one" you are after. So in the end u will just have no more "spark" between you and the watch and the watch will end up in watch box for most of time.


And if that happend, you will have hard time to sell off the item (unless its watch that in demand) and losing money in the long run. :HammerHead: :HammerHead: :HammerHead: Being there, done that. I gone tru the hard way. Quite sucks when u look into it and work the number up on those stray purchases (it will be worse when you get the item first hand and most of time it will depreciate badly) . >:(


So, in my opinion just set your goals/aim right and just focus on getting it and not stray off getting something else (as in other watch that its not in your original plan) :HammerHead:


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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2012, 09:18:36 AM »
I guess it goes something like this:-

A collector:

(1) Rolex 6542 GMT, (2) Rolex 1675 GMT gloss dial small GMT hand (3) Rolex 1675 GMT matt dial, (4) Rolex 16750 matt dial, (5) Rolex 16750 gloss dial, (6) Rolex 16750 gloss spider web dial, (7) Rolex 16700, (5) Rolex 16710 GMTII with lug holes (6) Rolex 16710 without lug holes, (7) Rolex 16710 with "stick dial" 3186 movement, (8) Rolex 16760 fat lady, (9) Rolex GMTII ceramic.

...all safely stored in a nicely polished burgundy hard wood box.

An accumulator:

(1) Q&Q quartz watch, (2) Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Traditionelle World Time (3) Casio Baby-G (4) A Lange Langematik Anniversary, (5) Rolex 5512 but with 5513 caseback bought from online seller from Hong Kong who likes to display his watches on a leather couch, (6) Seiko 6309-7040 with 6105 hands bought from Philippines online seller, (7) Barnie Purple Dinosaur watch, (8) Rolex Sea-Dweller (Petaling Street edition) (9) ABBA 30-year anniversary concert made in china watch (10) Rolex Submariner white gold blue dial (11) Shanghai 19J Made in China watch with Mao Zedong waving hand...

.....all stashed into a rusty old Khong Guan biscuit tin.

I guess most of us are somewhere in between the extremes.....
     

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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2012, 09:34:19 AM »

Rolex 5512 but with 5513 caseback bought from online seller from Hong Kong who likes to display his watches on a leather couch
   

Hahahahaha I think I know this seller.

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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2012, 10:26:35 AM »
Seiko 6309-7040 with 6105 hands bought from Philippines online seller

Come to think of it, I might know this one as well.....

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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2012, 09:20:53 PM »
I guess it goes something like this:-

A collector:

(1) Rolex 6542 GMT, (2) Rolex 1675 GMT gloss dial small GMT hand (3) Rolex 1675 GMT matt dial, (4) Rolex 16750 matt dial, (5) Rolex 16750 gloss dial, (6) Rolex 16750 gloss spider web dial, (7) Rolex 16700, (5) Rolex 16710 GMTII with lug holes (6) Rolex 16710 without lug holes, (7) Rolex 16710 with "stick dial" 3186 movement, (8) Rolex 16760 fat lady, (9) Rolex GMTII ceramic.

...all safely stored in a nicely polished burgundy hard

I would put all of them in a safe!

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2012, 08:13:06 PM »
What about the underline dial, the exclamation mark, the mini dial and rail dial? All exist inside the 1675 model.

Also the white dial 6542 and dauphine hand YG no crown guard ... ... (I'm beyond redemption ... :-\ ...)

Regards
Tyler

I guess it goes something like this:-

A collector:

(1) Rolex 6542 GMT, (2) Rolex 1675 GMT gloss dial small GMT hand (3) Rolex 1675 GMT matt dial, (4) Rolex 16750 matt dial, (5) Rolex 16750 gloss dial, (6) Rolex 16750 gloss spider web dial, (7) Rolex 16700, (5) Rolex 16710 GMTII with lug holes (6) Rolex 16710 without lug holes, (7) Rolex 16710 with "stick dial" 3186 movement, (8) Rolex 16760 fat lady, (9) Rolex GMTII ceramic.

...all safely stored in a nicely polished burgundy hard wood box.

An accumulator:

(1) Q&Q quartz watch, (2) Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Traditionelle World Time (3) Casio Baby-G (4) A Lange Langematik Anniversary, (5) Rolex 5512 but with 5513 caseback bought from online seller from Hong Kong who likes to display his watches on a leather couch, (6) Seiko 6309-7040 with 6105 hands bought from Philippines online seller, (7) Barnie Purple Dinosaur watch, (8) Rolex Sea-Dweller (Petaling Street edition) (9) ABBA 30-year anniversary concert made in china watch (10) Rolex Submariner white gold blue dial (11) Shanghai 19J Made in China watch with Mao Zedong waving hand...

.....all stashed into a rusty old Khong Guan biscuit tin.

I guess most of us are somewhere in between the extremes.....
   

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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2012, 07:02:47 AM »
What about the underline dial, the exclamation mark, the mini dial and rail dial? All exist inside the 1675 model.

Also the white dial 6542 and dauphine hand YG no crown guard ... ... (I'm beyond redemption ... :-\ ...)

Regards
Tyler


Hahaha....unfortunately the existing well polished hard wood box only has 9 slots. Need to get a new box first...this time an antique looking treasure box used by the Tsar of Russia.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Re: "Collecting" or "Accumulating" ?
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2016, 02:09:30 PM »
So,

Buying without direction = accumulating.
Buying with a set direction = collecting.
Thats exactly what i mean.

Oops....I am buying with a direction that I will not sell my watch.

Am I collecting or accumulating?