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Offline Vykraine

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rolex submariner version
« on: March 27, 2018, 03:13:56 PM »
Dear all sifu...currently i am looking at different version of submariner. I found that there is a small difference between this two version as attached pic. One of it is 1000ft =  300m with the f shorter and also the gap between the = and 300m is slightly further. Another one the f appear to be longer and the space between the = and 300 is really near. I believe this 2 version could be the 16610 VS 116610. However i saw D'Andy selling one of this watch in the preowned section. Based on the wording, the 1000f = 300m is with the longer f and smaller gap between the =300m, hence i guess it should be the 16610 version, but strangely the clasp is not the usually 16610 but is the same of the 116610 version. i am confused now. Any rolex sifu here can explain?

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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2018, 03:27:46 PM »
Based on your picture;

Left 116610 (larger crown guard, maxi dial, ceramic insert).
Right 16610 (smaller crown guard, aluminum insert).

As for text on dial, there have always been some small variations. Refer to my pic below:


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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2018, 03:37:20 PM »
I see. Thanks for the explanation. The crown guard is pretty obvious between the two version. But the text on the dial is really confusing me. The latest 116610 usual text would be same as the first picture u have posted, even on the official website. But i also saw there are some 116610 with the wording of your second picture. Strange

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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2018, 04:03:09 PM »
They make these small changes even on a current line, seems it is done yearly with every batch to enable them to track/identify year etc, also apparently to deter copies... if in doubt consult an AD
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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2018, 10:09:26 PM »
i saw D'Andy selling one of this watch in the preowned section. Based on the wording, the 1000f = 300m is with the longer f and smaller gap between the =300m, hence i guess it should be the 16610 version, but strangely the clasp is not the usually 16610 but is the same of the 116610 version. i am confused now.





Saw that you were referring to my SubDate advert. If you looked at the advert pics, you could clearly see from the warranty card that it was a 116610LN, hence this referred to the current generation of SubDate. With regards to the dials, the 116610LN do have dials with both the descriptions in your post above; so it just depend on which was the one that came with the watch you purchased. Mine was from 2016 so it was clearly a 116610LN, with the newer 5 years warranty. If your research stood that the dial on mine was that from the 16610LN, you could probably think of it as that you were getting a more classic 16610LN dial cased in the newer maxi dial and lugs 116610LN, with the superior bracelet. The best of both worlds, if you will.

Likewise, I have last year flipped a 116613LB with the <space>m. Thereafter, I found myself wanting to have the same watch in my collection, so I bought another new piece. This piece had the <no space>m. Pretty sure that there was no blue dial for the 16610LN so this just shows that both dials were available for the watch, so don't fret it, mate.

« Last Edit: March 27, 2018, 10:16:58 PM by D'Andy »
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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 08:33:47 AM »
Thank you very much for your explanation D’Andy. Btw nice collection you have there.  :angel:. Yea i understood the 116610LN or wihout the LN is the latest version now. But from the rolex website the font and spacing seems to be the variant which have a bigger gap between the = and 300m and so do the font of  (f). After doing some research, i found that there are also 116610LN version which have the font and spacing with no gap between the = and 300m ( the one you posted). Thus this makes it more confusing as the offical website is just showing one variant but in the market there are easily 3-4 variant of font and spacing.

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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2018, 02:10:26 PM »
Found my Submariner 116610LN got one small dot after the 300m , is it normal ?



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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2018, 02:32:55 PM »
Could it be just a speck of dust or lume flake trapped in there? Trying shaking the watch, or shooting a direct frontal angle picture.

For those with 116610LV, it might be fun to check out if yours was a Mark 1, 2, or 3 dial.

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Re: rolex submariner version
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2018, 03:39:12 PM »
Could it be just a speck of dust or lume flake trapped in there? Trying shaking the watch, or shooting a direct frontal angle picture.

For those with 116610LV, it might be fun to check out if yours was a Mark 1, 2, or 3 dial.


yup...take a 10x magnify glass to check it, it seem like a small gold color flake stick on the dial...