Ignorance

[GMTmaster]

I went to a large Seiko AD in JB here, and i was looking at some monsters. All K versions, (can see from the tag and dial). The manager (saw from his tag) came up and said,

"Hi, you wanna buy Seiko ah? We got discount. Very reasonable, all made in Japan one you know, this price you cannot get other place."

I was like 

And he is the manager there.......

     "K version" not made in Japan??

J means made in Japan, K means made in other country (maybe Malaysia )

Thanks for the clarification. I used to think all Seikos are from Japan too. 

[hansrayney]

Hey guys, I know I'm late to the party, but here is my story:

I was looking for an Orange Monster at shops in Sungei Wang.
I went in one of the big shops there, they have a big Orient signboard, but have other watches also.
I was browsing through their Seiko collection and,

SA: Hi, what are you looking for?
Me: Im looking for Seiko Orange Monster.
SA: What is that?
Me:  Its a quite well known diver from seiko, has an orange dial, SRP309. Do you have it?
SA: Let me check in our database. *after a while*. We dont have it sir. How about look at our orient divers? *Points at orang m-force*
Me: Sorry but Im looking for that specific watch.
SA: But Seiko is for dress watch. Not good divers.
Me:  Well actually they have good divers too. And Orient is actually under Seiko.
SA: No sir! Orient is another company. Better than seiko! My boss is the owner. All other shops take from us.
Me: 

[Narco]

That's quite a story u got there hansrayney!

[hidden830726]

Hey guys, I know I'm late to the party, but here is my story:

I was looking for an Orange Monster at shops in Sungei Wang.
I went in one of the big shops there, they have a big Orient signboard, but have other watches also.
I was browsing through their Seiko collection and,

SA: Hi, what are you looking for?
Me: Im looking for Seiko Orange Monster.
SA: What is that?
Me:  Its a quite well known diver from seiko, has an orange dial, SRP309. Do you have it?
SA: Let me check in our database. *after a while*. We dont have it sir. How about look at our orient divers? *Points at orang m-force*
Me: Sorry but Im looking for that specific watch.
SA: But Seiko is for dress watch. Not good divers.
Me:  Well actually they have good divers too. And Orient is actually under Seiko.
SA: No sir! Orient is another company. Better than seiko! My boss is the owner. All other shops take from us.
Me: 

haha very funny, actually if i understand correctly, orient is owned by seiko too. But your scenario is very funny... haha, definitely not own by his boss

Edited: ya Orient under seiko since 2001

[Narco]

Wrong! Orient is owned by the owner so this sungai want shop 

[hansrayney]

Hey guys, I know I'm late to the party, but here is my story:

I was looking for an Orange Monster at shops in Sungei Wang.
I went in one of the big shops there, they have a big Orient signboard, but have other watches also.
I was browsing through their Seiko collection and,

SA: Hi, what are you looking for?
Me: Im looking for Seiko Orange Monster.
SA: What is that?
Me:  Its a quite well known diver from seiko, has an orange dial, SRP309. Do you have it?
SA: Let me check in our database. *after a while*. We dont have it sir. How about look at our orient divers? *Points at orang m-force*
Me: Sorry but Im looking for that specific watch.
SA: But Seiko is for dress watch. Not good divers.
Me:  Well actually they have good divers too. And Orient is actually under Seiko.
SA: No sir! Orient is another company. Better than seiko! My boss is the owner. All other shops take from us.
Me: 

haha very funny, actually if i understand correctly, orient is owned by seiko too. But your scenario is very funny... haha, definitely not own by his boss

Edited: ya Orient under seiko since 2001

That is what i meant when i said "Orient is under Seiko". Means Seiko is the parent company.
I guess many SAs just have no knowledge about watches at all.
Many do not even know what hacking or handwinding on an automatic is. 

[Friedrice]

Had this happened a few times already so it might be common knowledge among ADs.

I have seen guys walking into Rolex ADs and usually accompanied by a pretty girl. They would usually enquiry about solid Gold Rolexes. Yes, solid gold ones. Then, they will haggle a discount of something stupid like 30%. Which of course the AD cannot give. So, they will boast (presumably to their female friend) aloud that they managed to get a similar discount at the airport/overseas/another unnamed AD and show off their purchase (usually a fake Rolex/Omega) on their wrist.

Rolex fakes are the easiest to tell as the date magnification on the cyclops is only 1.5x at most. Some even have glue stains on the indices. 

And then, the dude will proclaim loudly that he will shop around since this shop refuse to give him a good discount and walk out.

So, when you see a dude enquiring about a solid gold Rolex/omega and asking for a 30+% discount, you will know that the guy is just showing off and know nuts about watches.

[hansrayney]

Had this happened a few times already so it might be common knowledge among ADs.

I have seen guys walking into Rolex ADs and usually accompanied by a pretty girl. They would usually enquiry about solid Gold Rolexes. Yes, solid gold ones. Then, they will haggle a discount of something stupid like 30%. Which of course the AD cannot give. So, they will boast (presumably to their female friend) aloud that they managed to get a similar discount at the airport/overseas/another unnamed AD and show off their purchase (usually a fake Rolex/Omega) on their wrist.

Rolex fakes are the easiest to tell as the date magnification on the cyclops is only 1.5x at most. Some even have glue stains on the indices. 

And then, the dude will proclaim loudly that he will shop around since this shop refuse to give him a good discount and walk out.

So, when you see a dude enquiring about a solid gold Rolex/omega and asking for a 30+% discount, you will know that the guy is just showing off and know nuts about watches.

Nice tactic. 

[r3kahsttub]

I actually think it is very possible to get huge discounts on far less popular items in an AD, including the solid gold pieces. No?

[Friedrice]

Ya. But not 30% discount on a Rolex when the guy in question is not even a regular customer. And even for regulars, I have only experience 20% on gold Rolexes and only if I pay cash. 

[pexus]

My recent busy body trip to a rolex AD
Was quoted a way above rrp price for a popular sub model.

I asked why the price is so high when the anticipated price hike hasn't happened yet

And this is was the explanation

We sell to you at this price so that you can wear the watch now and happily enjoy it.  And don't have to worry about the price hike anymore when it happens.

Wow.  The reverse psychology is quite mind boggling actually


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[Narco]

Experiencing the same.. Price above RRP.

[Everdying]

makes you wonder how they manage to stay being an AD.

[kenji1903]

wife was talking to her uncle the other day as he bought a new Seiko to replace his dying Tag Heuer

Wife: wow, new watch!
Uncle: yeah, replacement watch, cheap cheap RM800 for auto daily beater
Wife: Nice, how long can it last each wind?
Uncle: 2 years at least
Me: <almost spit out my Chinese tea>
Wife: battery one is it?
Uncle: yeah, auto...
Wife: means battery lar?
Uncle: auto lar, no need to shake and wind, auto lor
Me: <LOL>
Wife: ohh...

[roystock]

wife was talking to her uncle the other day as he bought a new Seiko to replace his dying Tag Heuer

Wife: wow, new watch!
Uncle: yeah, replacement watch, cheap cheap RM800 for auto daily beater
Wife: Nice, how long can it last each wind?
Uncle: 2 years at least
Me: <almost spit out my Chinese tea>
Wife: battery one is it?
Uncle: yeah, auto...
Wife: means battery lar?
Uncle: auto lar, no need to shake and wind, auto lor
Me: <LOL>
Wife: ohh...

This one really make me 

[JeepWH]

wife was talking to her uncle the other day as he bought a new Seiko to replace his dying Tag Heuer

Wife: wow, new watch!
Uncle: yeah, replacement watch, cheap cheap RM800 for auto daily beater
Wife: Nice, how long can it last each wind?
Uncle: 2 years at least
Me: <almost spit out my Chinese tea>
Wife: battery one is it?
Uncle: yeah, auto...
Wife: means battery lar?
Uncle: auto lar, no need to shake and wind, auto lor
Me: <LOL>
Wife: ohh...

Good one man   

[jason_recliner]

The ignorance displayed in this thread is hilariously ironic!

If you are going to write in a thread about ignorance, make sure your posts are not ignorant!

[niteowl]

One of my fav threads ever in MWF. Keep it coming ppl...

[hanz079]

Back in the days when I was still wearing my 14060... on nato strap

Friend: Woah... Rolex wei...
Me: Yeah... cheapest one I can find.
Friend: Where's the bracelet? Sure fake one right?
Me: Whatever u say bro... hahaha (Sarcastic laugh)

Recently when I am at my AD.
A customer looking at AP watches.

Customer: Why AP watches so expensive ah? They are all machine made right?
Salesgirl: Yes, but finishing is by hand.
Customer: Only finishing? Should not be that expensive right? Did you know Patek watches are made entirely by hand?
Salesgirl: I don't.
Customer: The reason why Patek is so expensive is because they make each and every part by hand.

At this point,my kaypo personality just goes on automatic mode.

Me: I think you have mistaken, parts for Patek parts are made my machines too... similar to AP. Finishing is by hand.
Customer: How did you know? I am certain Patek makes each and every part by hand, that's why they are so expensive.
Me: Whatever you say bro... hahaha (sarcastic laugh too)
Customer: Yes.... They only make a handful of watches a year.
Me: They make twice as many watches as AP makes a year.
Customer: Cannot be la... AP easily available... Patek so rare.
Me: Whatever you say bro... hahaha (yet another sarcastic laugh)

[pexus]

was at an AD in Penang, busy `bodying' about a popular rolex model...

me: so difficult to get meh that model?
sales: yeah. 
me: if i put my name down, where am i in queue
sales: we don't use list.  First come first serve basis.
me: oh? interesting...most outlet follow a list
sales: (in a proud tone).  We very fair.  Follow first come first serve.  What we do is we call every customer that put their name down.  Then see who come first
me: waaa? like that, once get call must jump into car, drive very fast ah?
sales: yeah.  Last one who bought, he came ard 15-20 minutes after received our call
me: waaa? he drive ferrari?
sales: no...he stay in the condo just beside here.  After our call, he straight walked here...

[Narco]

was at an AD in Penang, busy `bodying' about a popular rolex model...

me: so difficult to get meh that model?
sales: yeah. 
me: if i put my name down, where am i in queue
sales: we don't use list.  First come first serve basis.
me: oh? interesting...most outlet follow a list
sales: (in a proud tone).  We very fair.  Follow first come first serve.  What we do is we call every customer that put their name down.  Then see who come first
me: waaa? like that, once get call must jump into car, drive very fast ah?
sales: yeah.  Last one who bought, he came ard 15-20 minutes after received our call
me: waaa? he drive ferrari?
sales: no...he stay in the condo just beside here.  After our call, he straight walked here...

Gurney Paragon?

[Clicko]

wife was talking to her uncle the other day as he bought a new Seiko to replace his dying Tag Heuer

Wife: wow, new watch!
Uncle: yeah, replacement watch, cheap cheap RM800 for auto daily beater
Wife: Nice, how long can it last each wind?
Uncle: 2 years at least
Me: <almost spit out my Chinese tea>
Wife: battery one is it?
Uncle: yeah, auto...
Wife: means battery lar?
Uncle: auto lar, no need to shake and wind, auto lor
Me: <LOL>
Wife: ohh...

Love this 

[Clicko]

Nice thread and let me share mine.

Met an old friend recently and was chatting many topics and suddenly came to watch.

Me: Are you into watches bro?
He: What watch you recommend?
Me: How about a Swiss made?
He: Whattt...? Swiss? No need la... watch is just to tell time only la, your one can tell time, mine also can la. Same same no need Swiss la...
Me: oh...
He: You wearing Swiss made is it?
Me: no la just China made (lucky he doesn't know I am wearing a Swiss one)

[JeepWH]

Nice thread and let me share mine.

Met an old friend recently and was chatting many topics and suddenly came to watch.

Me: Are you into watches bro?
He: What watch you recommend?
Me: How about a Swiss made?
He: Whattt...? Swiss? No need la... watch is just to tell time only la, your one can tell time, mine also can la. Same same no need Swiss la...
Me: oh...
He: You wearing Swiss made is it?
Me: no la just China made (lucky he doesn't know I am wearing a Swiss one)

Wearing watches is something which everyone can do.

However, appreciating watches is something of an aquired taste.

Some people just don't get what we watch enthusiasts are going on about, hence generalisng us as 'wasting our money' so to speak. (my friends for one are like that  )

The luckiest thing is we have MWF where all understands each others passion for watches, so why care what others think?

[Timeless]

always a good topic to read at tea time, it's definitely kill the sleepy if u have heavy lunch